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07-23-2020 , 02:55 PM

DooDooPoker

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NL Holdem 0.10(BB)
BTN ($14.22) [VPIP: 23% | PFR: 17.7% | AGG: 43.5% | Hands: 409]
SB ($12) [VPIP: 23% | PFR: 15.4% | AGG: 16.5% | Flop Agg: 19% | 3-Bet: 6.1% | 4-Bet: 10.3% | Hands: 2671]
HERO ($12.30) [VPIP: 24.6% | PFR: 21.5% | AGG: 35% | Flop Agg: 40.9% | 3-Bet: 10.8% | Fold to 3-Bet: 55.5% | 4-Bet: 16.4% | Hands: 285719]
UTG ($15.39) [VPIP: 26.8% | PFR: 17.1% | AGG: 31% | Hands: 86]
HJ ($8.64) [VPIP: 12.4% | PFR: 8.6% | AGG: 30.8% | Hands: 107]
CO ($10.78) [VPIP: 23.2% | PFR: 20.4% | AGG: 35.6% | Hands: 4794]

Dealt to Hero: J

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Folds, BTN Folds, SB Raises To $0.30, HERO Raises To $0.90, SB Calls $0.60

Hero SPR on Flop: [6.17 effective]
Flop ($1.80): 6

SB Checks, HERO ?

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07-23-2020 , 03:05 PM

WorldzMine

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Bet about 38% of the time ~1/4 pot and check the rest. Or range check if you want to simplify your strategy for whatever reason.

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07-23-2020 , 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by WorldzMine

Bet about 38% of the time ~1/4 pot and check the rest. Or range check if you want to simplify your strategy for whatever reason.

Thx. Did you nodelock SB to have 0% Donk lead range in your sims?

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07-23-2020 , 04:20 PM

Shipnickle

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Am I completely off for thinking that BB's polarized 3b range connects very well with this board equity and nut wise vs SB 3b flatting range..

I feel that SB should never donk this and BB should bet range

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07-23-2020 , 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Shipnickle

SB has a very high frequency donking range here. SB has all sets and BB has almost none. The flush advantage goes to SB as well. Most Axs should be flatting preflop vs an SB open

BB has all TT-AA but that doesn't matter since SB has more sets/flushes. So BB should range check back here if we node lock SB to never donking.

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07-23-2020 , 05:04 PM

Shipnickle

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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker

Ok, interesting. I was thinking BB connects better with the low cards (other than sets) and also has more of the better suited broadways + more offsuit broadways and Axo combos with the NFD. And obviously the overpairs. But you are probably right that the condensed SB range just is more likely to have a nutty hand.

Interesting spot.

Do you mind sharing the BB's equity?

Last edited by Shipnickle; 07-23-2020 at 05:10 PM.

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07-23-2020 , 05:10 PM

WorldzMine

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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker

Thx. Did you nodelock SB to have 0% Donk lead range in your sims?

No.

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07-23-2020 , 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Shipnickle

Ok, interesting. I was thinking BB connects better with the low cards (other than sets) and also has more of the better suited broadways + more offsuit broadways and Axo combos with the NFD. And obviously the overpairs.

Interesting spot.

Do you mind sharing the BB's equity?

yeah it's a pretty cool spot. I guess since SB's range is more condensed (I have SB at 160 combos postflop and BB at 250 combos) + nut advantage it becomes a lot more important to play passively OTF.

That is SB's equity so BB's equity is 49.17%

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07-24-2020 , 02:02 PM

pokerforumposter

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wtf ranges are you using?

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07-24-2020 , 02:09 PM

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Shipnickle

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Originally Posted by pokerforumposter

wtf ranges are you using?

Looks like monkersolver ranges.

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07-24-2020 , 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by pokerforumposter

wtf ranges are you using?

pstars 50nl rake ranges

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07-24-2020 , 02:26 PM

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bailashtoreth

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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker

pstars 50nl rake ranges

Who created them?

Bb appears to be heavily weighed toward not so great os hands.

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07-24-2020 , 02:48 PM

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Shipnickle

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Originally Posted by bailashtoreth

Who created them?

Bb appears to be heavily weighed toward not so great os hands.

Yeah BBvSB 3bet ranges are probably the only ones in optimal poker that are incredibly polarized. It looks like the crappy old school hands you are referring to are weighted somewhere between 25% and 50% each. J8o, Q8o, J4s, T3s, 94s are examples of hands that solvers like to 3bet in BBvSB. Crazy huh :-)

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07-24-2020 , 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bailashtoreth

Who created them?

Bb appears to be heavily weighed toward not so great os hands.

Simple preflop.

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