Too thin or okay?

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NL Holdem $0.10(BB)
BTN ($23.82) [VPIP: 0% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | Flop Agg: 0% | Turn Agg: 0% | River Agg: 0% | 3-Bet: 0% | 4-Bet: 0% | Hands: 8]
HERO ($12.05) [VPIP: 24.9% | PFR: 21.6% | AGG: 34.2% | Flop Agg: 40.1% | Turn Agg: 27.5% | River Agg: 30.6% | 3-Bet: 10.9% | 4-Bet: 16.4% | Hands: 216433]
BB ($20.32) [VPIP: 44.4% | PFR: 22.2% | AGG: 14.3% | Flop Agg: 33.3% | Turn Agg: 0% | River Agg: 0% | 3-Bet: 0% | 4-Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 40% | Hands: 9]
UTG ($12.64) [VPIP: 17.1% | PFR: 14.6% | AGG: 7.7% | Flop Agg: 20% | Turn Agg: 0% | River Agg: 0% | 3-Bet: 0% | 4-Bet: 0% | Hands: 44]
HJ ($13.22) [VPIP: 26.8% | PFR: 20.7% | AGG: 37.1% | Flop Agg: 38.7% | Turn Agg: 42.3% | River Agg: 24.6% | 3-Bet: 10.5% | 4-Bet: 13.9% | Hands: 2274]
CO ($11.71) [VPIP: 33.3% | PFR: 33.3% | AGG: 50% | Flop Agg: 0% | Turn Agg: 100% | River Agg: 0% | 3-Bet: 0% | 4-Bet: 0% | Hands: 3]

Dealt to Hero: K K

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Folds, BTN Folds, HERO Raises To $0.30, BB Calls $0.20

Hero SPR on Flop: [19.58 effective]
Flop ($0.60): 3 3 J
HERO Checks, BB Bets $0.45 (Rem. Stack: 19.57), HERO Raises To $1.20 (Rem. Stack: 10.55), BB Calls $0.75 (Rem. Stack: 18.82)

Turn ($3.00): 3 3 J 5
HERO Bets $2.25 (Rem. Stack: 8.30), BB Calls $2.25 (Rem. Stack: 16.57)

River ($7.50): 3 3 J 5 8
HERO Bets $8.30 (allin)

perfect line and sizings

flop:
I cbet 1/4 flop - i dont check - i think paired 2 tone Jxx can be cbet

I call the flop bet - I dont check raise here - I dont get the c/r on paired board at all

turn: i dont know - leaning towards check / betting small

river: ok

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NL Holdem $0.10(BB)
BTN ($23.82) [VPIP: 10% | PFR: 6% | AGG: 0% | Flop Agg: 0% | Turn Agg: 0% | River Agg: 0% | 3-Bet: 0% | 4-Bet: 0% | Hands: 52]
HERO ($12.05) [VPIP: 24.9% | PFR: 21.6% | AGG: 34.2% | Flop Agg: 40.1% | Turn Agg: 27.5% | River Agg: 30.6% | 3-Bet: 10.9% | 4-Bet: 16.4% | Hands: 216563]
BB ($20.32) [VPIP: 26.5% | PFR: 17.6% | AGG: 26.7% | Flop Agg: 42.9% | Turn Agg: 25% | River Agg: 0% | 3-Bet: 0% | 4-Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 18.8% | Hands: 36]
UTG ($12.64) [VPIP: 17.6% | PFR: 13.7% | AGG: 25% | Flop Agg: 42.9% | Turn Agg: 20% | River Agg: 0% | 3-Bet: 5.3% | 4-Bet: 0% | Hands: 54]
HJ ($13.22) [VPIP: 26.8% | PFR: 20.7% | AGG: 37.1% | Flop Agg: 38.7% | Turn Agg: 42.3% | River Agg: 24.6% | 3-Bet: 10.5% | 4-Bet: 13.9% | Hands: 2274]
CO ($11.71) [VPIP: 25% | PFR: 25% | AGG: 50% | Flop Agg: 0% | Turn Agg: 100% | River Agg: 0% | 3-Bet: 0% | 4-Bet: 0% | Hands: 12]

Dealt to Hero: K K

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Folds, BTN Folds, HERO Raises To $0.30, BB Calls $0.20

Hero SPR on Flop: [19.58 effective]
Flop ($0.60): 3 3 J
HERO Checks, BB Bets $0.45 (Rem. Stack: 19.57), HERO Raises To $1.20 (Rem. Stack: 10.55), BB Calls $0.75 (Rem. Stack: 18.82)

Turn ($3.00): 3 3 J 5
HERO Bets $2.25 (Rem. Stack: 8.30), BB Calls $2.25 (Rem. Stack: 16.57)

River ($7.50): 3 3 J 5 8
HERO Bets $8.30 (allin), BB Calls $8.30 (Rem. Stack: 8.27)

Wizard - flop is a range check on these X - low pairing boards right?

Literally the widest range spot in six max. You should have a ton of XR here - especially if we are range checking flop (which I think is correct but need to confirm).

ok now logic makes sense - ty

i bet here - so i felt c/r as weird - plus BB can have lot of 3x here - we dont - the low pairing card favours BB more than us

i am interested to know the results - ty for posting this - may be i can correct my lines

Nope I'm wrong - you are right.

We have effectively a 0% XR range here. WTF

I guess because we are against polar ranges OTF? This blows my mind.

Agree.

That doesn't sound right. I think that board's a high-frequency bet unless it's A-high. But I'd x/r with the club here too.

Huh? I'll ignore that result and keep x/r'ing this type of hand in these situations.

sometimes villain calls which you don't want to happen

and sometimes he shows a 3

Even if it's a 0% x/r in theory, I have to imagine it's much better in practice

Though honestly BB might only have mostly Jx/3x and clubs when he sizes up - in my experience when players bet this large their ranges tend to be quite strong

stop and use the brain when you have that kind of result, don't beliebe so quickly

What do you mean?

BB has way more 3x than us in a SRP. That's because his calling range consists of all 3x and his 3betting range consists of none.

So he has a more condensed range naturally since we open around 46% in the SB and then on top of that- he has more 3x.

That's why we don't XR here in solver land.

I thought i played it well too - back to the lab.

Yeah and i block his most likely call down hands of KJ - assuming AJ 3bets at a decent frequency.

Not good.

??

Okay A3s/53s. But this spot is very counter intuitive.

Most of the time you all but dismiss trips when the board comes out X22 or X33 but in SBvsBB SRP it is actually much more likely that the BB has trips because of how pre flop ranges are constructed.

I mean never doing something as common as x/raising here should raise red flags

Same for when you said solver didn't use a 1/3 psb sizing, it literally never happened for me

T3, J3 are high freq 3bets too