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07-17-2020 , 02:31 PM
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NL Holdem 0.10(BB)
HERO ($12.37) [VPIP: 24.6% | PFR: 21.5% | AGG: 34.8% | Flop Agg: 40.7% | Turn Agg: 27.8% | River Agg: 31.5% | 3-Bet: 10.9% | 4-Bet: 16.5% | Hands: 276374]
SB ($7.70) [VPIP: 33.3% | PFR: 10.4% | AGG: 50% | Hands: 51]
BB ($21.84) [VPIP: 21.8% | PFR: 19% | AGG: 27.3% | Flop Agg: 34.6% | Turn Agg: 17.6% | River Agg: 25% | 3-Bet: 15% | 4-Bet: 50% | Cold Call: 6.1% | Hands: 301]
UTG ($9) [VPIP: 0% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 2]
HJ ($14.67) [VPIP: 22.8% | PFR: 19.2% | AGG: 40.7% | Hands: 375]
CO ($14.95) [VPIP: 33.3% | PFR: 19.9% | AGG: 24.8% | Hands: 224]

Dealt to Hero: T A

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Folds, HERO Raises To $0.25, SB Folds, BB Calls $0.15

Hero SPR on Flop: [22.04 effective]
Flop ($0.55): 8 7 K
BB Checks, HERO Checks

Turn ($0.55): 8 7 K 7
BB Bets $0.40 (Rem. Stack: $21.19), HERO Calls $0.40 (Rem. Stack: $11.72)

River ($1.35): 8 7 K 7 J
BB Bets $0.95 (Rem. Stack: $20.24) HERO Raises To $4.50 (Rem. Stack: $7.22)
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07-17-2020 , 02:54 PM
Yeah I like it. A lot depends on how often you check back 9T as you have all combos in your range, you have JJ, and 7x so lots of value. You also dont have a lot of Tx that get to the river so I think I approve.
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07-17-2020 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Crab Cakes
Yeah I like it. A lot depends on how often you check back 9T as you have all combos in your range, you have JJ, and 7x so lots of value. You also dont have a lot of Tx that get to the river so I think I approve.
Yeah in game I didn't think I had much Tx that got here this way. I'll have to run it through a solve later but I think it might be okay.
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07-17-2020 , 03:24 PM
idk seems fine to me

How often do you x behind T9 otf?
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07-17-2020 , 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by whitemares
idk seems fine to me

How often do you x behind T9 otf?
I have all the offsuit combos so I'd just do it by suits, not sure if that is the best way though.
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07-17-2020 , 03:36 PM
Like checking just no diamond combos?
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07-17-2020 , 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by whitemares
Like checking just no diamond combos?
yeah
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07-17-2020 , 04:27 PM
Im not a fan to be honest - not sure about relevancy of blockers here

firstly i think blockers are most important in tight range vs tight range and/or when actions point towards someone having a very polarised range. The wide ranges in play here (BTN open/BB call) and the passive action as played dont make having a 10 that big a deal

secondly, the majority of players dont protect their xb ranges so even if you do XB 910 at a mixed frequency the pool is likely to believe that this combo would have been cbet on the flop (esp at 10nl)(we work this to our advantage when we XB flop and DO hit our hand then we are more likely to get paid off)

lastly, i just dont think this play is needed to beat 10nl, although its good in theory that you are identifying potential spots for it.
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07-17-2020 , 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by PROPOSITION_JOE
lastly, i just dont think this play is needed to beat 10nl, although its good in theory that you are identifying potential spots for it.
This is zoom on one of the few sites still offering rakeback, even though it's an unregulated site targeting US players, it's full of row players for that reason

So because of this, the pool is largely bad regs, and you need to look for spots to attack them if you want to have a strong winrate
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07-17-2020 , 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by whitemares
This is zoom on one of the few sites still offering rakeback, even though it's an unregulated site targeting US players, it's full of row players for that reason

So because of this, the pool is largely bad regs, and you need to look for spots to attack them if you want to have a strong winrate
ok its a fair point, il be honest i missed villains stats.

row =?

but id still say that with it being 10nl, checking back flop hurts our river action - they are bad regs for a reason right?
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07-17-2020 , 10:28 PM
I like the play, ive been using it to success as well. Its important to know your opponent is capable of a fold and you can take advantage here when they go for thin value on the river. I think whats nice about this is he doesn't have to put you squarely on 10-9, your play can look like a 7 too or a weird hand like a set of 8s you played weird. I think hes going for thin value that you can push him off a lot here like a weak king or something like 99 or 1010
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