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01-20-2010 , 12:40 AM
Damn it, I feel the need to get back out there. What a rush.
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01-20-2010 , 12:40 AM
This isn't even the most ridiculous call I saw in my session.... People are playing for stacks without even paying attention to the board.

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP: $25.00
CO: $28.31
Hero (BTN): $106.66
SB: $53.65
BB: $81.03
UTG: $32.58

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with T 8
UTG raises to $0.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.50, SB calls $0.40, BB calls $0.25

Flop: ($2.00) K 6 9 (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets $1.25, UTG calls $1.25, Hero calls $1.25, SB calls $1.25

Turn: ($7.00) 7 (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets $3, UTG calls $3, Hero raises to $18, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls $15

River: ($46.00) 3 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $86.91 all in, UTG calls $12.83 all in

Final Pot: $71.66
Hero shows T 8 (a straight, Ten high)
UTG mucks T T
Hero wins $68.66
(Rake: $3.00)
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01-20-2010 , 12:46 AM
So since everyone can just fold their garbage hands. Whats stopping everyone from just playing premo hands? If everyone is playing premo hands; where is the valu coming from?
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01-20-2010 , 12:57 AM
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So since everyone can just fold their garbage hands. Whats stopping everyone from just playing premo hands? If everyone is playing premo hands; where is the valu coming from?
TQo is a premo hand in sb to ug raise for your standard unl player.
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01-20-2010 , 01:06 AM
I played my 1st session tonight 2-tabling $25NL, and generally if I was on the CO or button and someone raised in front of me and I had trash, I'd "quickfold" and move on. However, if I had trash in one of the blinds and it folded to the CO or button who attempted a steal, I found that they were much more apt to fold to the 3-bet than in a normal game. I'm sure eventually this will be exploitable as players adjust, but for now it worked. If villain did call, they generally folded to the c-bet (PT3 showed a 3-bet from blinds of around 30% and only 1/3rd of those WTSD).

A few other observations:

As often noted already, a great way to clear bonus/rakeback/daily Ironmans on those days where a recreational player might be pressed for time to get it in. My session this evening was around 80 minutes for 140 FTPs.

My computer was a little slow to adjust to what was going on. I locked up a couple of times when I first started playing, but once it got used to it everything flowed smooth. Anyone else experience this?

Thanks to uke_master for his earlier post. A very comprehensive summary of a game that has only been out for a short period. Well done and I don't think it has gotten enough love in this thread.
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01-20-2010 , 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Ophidion
So since everyone can just fold their garbage hands. Whats stopping everyone from just playing premo hands? If everyone is playing premo hands; where is the valu coming from?
needs ante
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01-20-2010 , 01:17 AM
And just for fun and a little more rake in Lederer's pockets....

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($28.15)
UTG+1 ($61.96)
MP1 ($60.91)
MP2 ($21.88)
MP3 ($44.13)
CO ($24.45)
Button ($22.26)
Hero (SB) ($26.37)
BB ($76.17)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A, A
4 folds, MP3 bets $0.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.25, BB raises to $76.17 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero calls $24.12 (All-In)

Flop: ($53.24) 9, K, 8 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($53.24) 9 (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($53.24) 8 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $53.24 | Rake: $2.66

Results:
Hero had A, A (two pair, Aces and nines).
BB had A, A (two pair, Aces and nines).
Outcome: Hero won $25.29, BB won $25.29

Last edited by SnakeEyes; 01-20-2010 at 01:20 AM. Reason: Standard imo
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01-20-2010 , 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by RML604
It's like a mini poker boom. Imagine feeling this way all the time. So mad/jealous I missed out on the actual boom.
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Originally Posted by ~run.it.twice
This is almost as though $50 bills are flying out the ATM, and it's a mad scrap to get the most money. How long is this going to last? :/

I've had people shoving underpairs against me, at least twice.
Seriously....i felt like i was in one of those boxes where moneys flying around and you have to grab it....this is exhausing but sooooo profitable
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01-20-2010 , 01:31 AM
Great, 3700 hands played, down 10 BI, 7 BI below EV.

Plan A: Try to exploit players based on the insane amount of 3b pf, but that turned into a high variance guess-fest. (down 1 BI in EV)

Plan B: Alright, lets just grind these BI back by nitting it up, only to flop a set and get out flushed, then to ship AK against AQ to see him river the straight. I've won 1 coin flip and lost 7.

Rush can kiss my ass. (But damn does it appeal to the "one more hand" syndrome.)
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01-20-2010 , 01:46 AM
..After about 1.5 hours of two 6 max and one full ring micro stakes I'm up a buyin. I went up 1 BI, down 4 BI, and then up 4 BI. I had a few coolers too. Well they might not be coolers. When someone 4bets shoves, and you have KK, with this "fold til you get a premium, them shove" rush mentality can you ever be more then a coin flip?

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

154,107,360 games 0.125 secs 1,232,858,880 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 47.293% 43.79% 03.51% 67479612 5402286.00 { KK }
Hand 1: 52.707% 49.20% 03.51% 75823176 5402286.00 { KK+, AKs, AKo }


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154,107,360 games 0.141 secs 1,092,960,000 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 47.293% 43.79% 03.51% 67479612 5402286.00 { KK }
Hand 1: 52.707% 49.20% 03.51% 75823176 5402286.00 { KK+, AKs, AKo }

With QQ in the villains range you are still only a 57% favorite. And there will be less people shoving pre with TT+ and AT+.

I know in a regular cash game "never fold KK pre" but, like I said before, when you can just fold til you have something, holding KK and being 4bet shoved into doesn't look very good. Twice tonight I got it in pre with KK and villain showed AA. Also, twice tonight I got it in pre with AA and guess what, villain showed KK. Never TT+ or AJ+.

I'd like to hear you're guys experience with AA and KK and getting it in pre.

Last edited by Grrr34; 01-20-2010 at 01:48 AM. Reason: nonyabuisness
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01-20-2010 , 01:48 AM
huds don't work on this correct? Do we think that will stay that way or will the huds have updates? Seems like the hud would have to be working pretty fast to pull up all of those ppls stats at 3+ a minute.
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01-20-2010 , 02:11 AM
I can officially say I've taken money off andy bloch, stole his BB at 10nl lol
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01-20-2010 , 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by qazikm2000
huds don't work on this correct? Do we think that will stay that way or will the huds have updates? Seems like the hud would have to be working pretty fast to pull up all of those ppls stats at 3+ a minute.
Yeah huds are fairly useless in this. I don't think it matters all that much because it's more of a positional game anyway.

I'm winning money at a faster rate than I do playing HU which I thought would be impossible at a 6max table. I think I'm addicted.

I just wonder though how long it will be before it's just cluttered with regs making it extremely difficult to keep a very high winrate.
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01-20-2010 , 02:24 AM
F this game
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01-20-2010 , 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ooohjoy
An okay player can easily make $30/hour playing 2 - 3 tables of $50 Rush Poker.

So what's the optimal strategy for Rush Poker? I don't really know
What's the point of your thread? You just make baseless claims. Telling people in this forum that an "okay player" can make 5bb/100 easilly at these tables is misleading and no one can substantiate it. The vast majority of players haven't even played 5000 hands of Rush poker, so as a grunch to this thread: no.
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01-20-2010 , 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by LOLDONKBETZ
What's the point of your thread? You just make baseless claims. Telling people in this forum that an "okay player" can make 5bb/100 easilly at these tables is misleading and no one can substantiate it. The vast majority of players haven't even played 5000 hands of Rush poker, so as a grunch to this thread: no.
Well, as of so far the tables are much fishier than normal tables at least at 10nl. Whether an "okay player" can make 5bb/100 easily is hard to say, but people can definitely tell that they can make more money at these tables. At least until the fish dry up, which probably will happen pretty fast given the rate that regs are making money.
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01-20-2010 , 03:23 AM
the "oh, rush poker is great, I am up 10 buyins in 1 hour" crowd will wake up soon.
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01-20-2010 , 03:27 AM
the fish are going to dry out fast in this format. they stack off soooo light.
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01-20-2010 , 03:32 AM
yeah, i play the 9 max, and i can't believe how many all-ins i've had against with aa and kk against middle pocket pairs for full stacks. 6400 hands of rush poker so far and winning 8.2 BB/100...me likey so far
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01-20-2010 , 03:58 AM
easy game imo



Spoiler:
just kidding, i run hot as the sun
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01-20-2010 , 04:03 AM
i dont even care about if its profitable. this is funnnnnn
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01-20-2010 , 04:12 AM
pretty good for laptopping too. dont need a huge screen or a bunch of 3rd party programs
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01-20-2010 , 04:16 AM
Damn rush poker does look awesome, sucks I don't have an account on FT, almost tempted to create one just because of rush poker lol (is it really that fishy?)
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01-20-2010 , 04:19 AM
Yeah it's pretty much filled with people wanting to gambooool. I imagine that once the new shiny toy effect wears off and the fish go broke, it'll turn into a regfilled nitfest similar to the DoNs though. Hopefully we have a while until then
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01-20-2010 , 04:28 AM
the weekend will be a bloody "rush" massacre, just pray that variance will be on our side.
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