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04-21-2011 , 09:50 AM
The SB 3bet stat is 7% over around 150 hands, but he has 3bet me twice in position over the last 2 rounds. This time he 3bet me OOP so I flat call. I check the flop as I don't want to get CR. How would you extract the most out of this hand.

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: $12.32
BB: $5.00
UTG: $11.49
MP: $3.50
CO: $11.27
Hero (BTN): $10.26

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has A Q

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.30, SB raises to $0.95, fold, Hero calls $0.65

Flop: ($2.00, 2 players) T K K
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($2.00, 2 players) J
SB bets $1.30, Hero calls $1.30

River: ($4.60, 2 players) Q
SB checks, Hero bets $8.01 and is all-in, fold

Hero wins $4.38
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04-21-2011 , 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by lgwong
How would you extract the most out of this hand
Flat turn like you did, bet somewhere between tree fiddy and $4 on river. nh
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04-21-2011 , 10:05 AM
The reason I shove on the river is hoping that he has an Ace and just call me down. Looking back probably a pot size bet is much more likely to get called by an Ace.
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04-21-2011 , 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by lgwong
The reason I shove on the river is hoping that he has an Ace and just call me down. Looking back probably a pot size bet is much more likely to get called by an Ace.
an ace is a bluffcatcher on that board so it would justify a smaller river bet
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04-21-2011 , 10:54 AM
wp not shoving river is criminal
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04-21-2011 , 11:25 AM
Why not raise the turn for value? On the turn his line could be straight, flush, boat...he is not folding to a small raise ever.
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04-21-2011 , 12:01 PM
minraise turn
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04-21-2011 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Yoshii
Why not raise the turn for value? On the turn his line could be straight, flush, boat...he is not folding to a small raise ever.
We expect him to fire most rivers and often call down our river VB because of no postflop aggression on our part.

Suppose he's never folding turn and calls us down 40% OTR after our raise, or fires 60% and calls us 30% OTR after our flat:

Minraise turn: $2 + $1.30 + ~$1.70 + 0.4x$6.00 = ~$5.40 EV

Flat turn: $2 + $1.30 + 0.6x~$3.00 + 0.3x$4.00 = ~$6.30 EV

Feel free to tweak estimated frequencies.
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04-21-2011 , 02:02 PM
Why would you shove the river? He is not calling with many hands... You have literally the nuts and it seemed like you were trying to bet him off the hand. Value you bet the ef outta this guy with a $3.50 bet and hope he raises his straight/trips/boat. He is folding a straight to that bet most of the time. But he is calling with a boat...He may even fold trips if he is tight.

Gotta remember, the fishy yanks (I'm American) aren't playing right now
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04-21-2011 , 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by EyeH8theRIVER
Why would you shove the river? He is not calling with many hands... You have literally the nuts and it seemed like you were trying to bet him off the hand. Value you bet the ef outta this guy with a $3.50 bet and hope he raises his straight/trips/boat. He is folding a straight to that bet most of the time. But he is calling with a boat...He may even fold trips if he is tight.

Gotta remember, the fishy yanks (I'm American) aren't playing right now
Actually I pretend to have an Ace only and try to make him think that I am betting him off the hand. Then if he has an Ace, he will probably call me down. But it seems that the board is too scary for him to call a shove without at least a full house.
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04-21-2011 , 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by thac
minraise turn
Trying to fold out quads?
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04-21-2011 , 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ionutd
wp not shoving river is criminal
This logic is criminal
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