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River close flsuh - fold? River close flsuh - fold?

01-29-2012 , 11:55 AM
Villain is unknown looks like fish 32/29 over 50hands. My flop check-raise is standard imho, turn bet must be higher but I want him to stay. Is there check-fold?


    Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10, $0.02 ante No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11736152

    Hero (SB): $13.94 (139.4 bb)
    BB: $23.97 (239.7 bb)
    MP: $11.52 (115.2 bb)
    CO: $46.11 (461.1 bb)
    BTN: $9.10 (91 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 8 8
    MP raises to $0.35, CO folds, BTN calls $0.35, Hero calls $0.30, BB folds

    Flop: ($1.25) 8 J 5 (3 players)
    Hero checks, MP bets $1, BTN folds, Hero raises to $2.82, MP calls $1.82

    Turn: ($6.89) 3 (2 players)
    Hero bets $3.35, MP calls $3.35

    River: ($13.59) 9 (2 players)
    Hero bets $5.10, MP calls $4.98

    Spoiler:
    Results: $23.55 pot ($1.14 rake)
    Final Board: 8 J 5 3 9
    Hero showed 8 8 and won $0.00 (-$11.52 net)
    MP showed 6 7 and won $22.41 ($10.89 net)



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    River close flsuh - fold? Quote
    01-29-2012 , 11:58 AM
    I raise larger on the flop so I can ship the turn
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    01-29-2012 , 12:10 PM
    Raise larger OTF, MUCH larger OTT - that makes the river super easy to play and you would be able to value jam with only a couple of $ vs a rather decent sized calling range (Jx, two pairs, worse sets (though unlikely))

    By betting that small, you are giving him pretty odds to continue. He also will rightfully think you will stick your remaining stack in even if his draw hits.

    So your allowing him to make a good call. If you had say, potted the turn... villain doesn't have the odds to call and thus would be making a -Ev play (and you +Ev).

    Villain is loose and what looks like bad. He will be calling with a draw no matter the price and therefore, value bet as much as he is willing to call OTT.
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    01-29-2012 , 12:15 PM
    Like they said, pot the flop, shove turn.
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    01-29-2012 , 02:57 PM
    depending on OR cbet freq, i would consider donking here.
    as played xr is ok but sizing is really bad both otf and ott. we are losing a lot of value here
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