888 Poker - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 34 BB (VPIP: 57.14, PFR: 20.24, 3Bet Preflop: 5.13, Hands: 89)
BTN: 58.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
SB: 140.24 BB (VPIP: 22.01, PFR: 18.15, 3Bet Preflop: 8.02, Hands: 1,986)
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 137.56 BB (VPIP: 30.77, PFR: 30.77, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 13)
MP: 133.42 BB (VPIP: 26.78, PFR: 21.94, 3Bet Preflop: 8.35, Hands: 1,547)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A 9

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) 4 8 A
Hero checks, BTN bets 4.86 BB, Hero calls 4.86 BB

Turn: (16.22 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero checks, BTN bets 10 BB, Hero calls 10 BB

River: (36.22 BB, 2 players) T
Hero checks, BTN bets 24 BB, fold

BTN wins 34.42 BB


I thought my range is capped..Weak ace or flush draw.
But I thought river call is not good..is it right?

No hands on villain so an unknown.

It's always a little tough I think in these spots. I mean really against an aggressive (slightly physcho player) it's snap call on the river because you've played your hand passively and just tried to extract bets from hands worse than ours by c/calling.

Against anyone decent though and most regs it's hard to see them triple barrelling with air here.

I'm calling but bracing myself to see villain show me a better ace or two pair+ hand.

Thanks guy!

You're welcome

Fold or 3b pre.

Really bad advice. This is fine to call v a standard button opening range.

I agree. Button opening range is probably wide, definitely can have you beat here but he could be bluffing with a flush draw.

Folding river probably best when we don't know anything about the guy.. wp

Think whole hand is wp!

Calling def best option pre!

Only intersting spot is riverplay. Only thing that makes me want call is that he is a shortstack! If he had 100bb I would fold. Also only 2 hands prior but he did fold them which makes me want to fold river more.

Think folding river is best!

Folding here would be pretty wrong imo. I like the call and 3bet weaker Ax.

This

Call or 3b is fine. I wouldn't even mind a xr oft. The call is fine to. Villain has a ton of worse and missed draws he can have. Calling river 100%

Seems like a really sucky hand to 3-bet.

I'm a bit surprised by all the replies saying the river is a call for us. For me this kind of looks like the villain is taking a calling station fish to valuetown with AK or AQ.

• Line is consitent with all the Ax that beat you.
• A pocket pair would probably check back river. So not likely.
• This leaves bluffs (everything made MP or lower) and semibluffs (flush draws). Could of course always be bluffs but playing this way with an Ace on board and your opponent consistently calling seems like a losing strategy. A semibluff probably would have checked back the turn.

Of course I could be wrong but I'd like to learn in that case

Seems like bad fold on river if calling turn. Even vs unknown should just have EV estimate vs a range here

lol at fold or 3bet pre, callings super standard. River could go either way when the FD misses it makes me want to call more but I dont think 60bb fish are bluffing too often here so I dont hate you for folding.

Agree, when it's a read dependent call, I think defaulting folding to a solid player is long term +EV

Remember they have the same non read on you which tends to make a bluff less likely.

Hand is very very well played imo.

Whether river is a call depends on what you do with your range preflop.

I call preflop with AT, AJ, and AQ as a standard, so river would be a fold for me since I have plenty better to call with.

If you're 3betting AQ and AJ pre you need to call here.

Lol at this lol - call OOP is bad. This hand shows exactly why....

Why? He is an unknown. He doesn't know anything about our ranges pre...

Also for those of you of want to 3bet or fold instead of calling, which i guess u want because you think this hand is too weak?


What range do you defend pre in the bb vs a bu-open....

If it's an unknown I'd just try and play unexploitably because we don't know whether he value bets thin, bluffs to much etc at that point. If we 3bet AQ/AJ then we're commited to call this off given positions.

Just a quick and dirty calculation...assuming we're calling around 32%, our calling range is 428 combos. Fold 35% each time, and we have 278 combos after the flop bet, 180 combos after the turn bet, and should call with 117 combos.

114 combos (close enough) here are 88-77, 44, AQs-ATs, A8s-A7s, A4s, AQo-ATo, A8o-A7o, A4o. So all 2 pair+, along with AJ and AQ. But if you take out AJ and AQ (because you 3bet them pre) then you need to call with A9 and A6 too. If you only 3bet AQ but call AJ, you can fold A6 but still need to call A9. Basically, it depends on how wide OP 3bets preflop...obviously if you 3bet all the big aces preflop then your range is super weak on Axx when you just call, which is going to mean we have to call down some pretty marginal stuff.

EDIT: forgot about 78s which we can of course call with in both examples. But you're probably only calling pre with the suited versions of that against a 3x open, meaning you still need to call with A9 I'm afraid.

Sure there may be times to 3bet this or even fold it, but it would be vs specific villians. I'm saying as a standard vs a 100bb reg calling is best. You cant just pick out one hand and say "This hand shows exactly why it's bad". That quote kinda shows me you dont really know what you are talking about.

I'm not really in the mood to get into a lengthly debate about 3betting ranges bb vs btn to be honest.

If you're 3betting this pre, you're probably really really bad.