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Originally Posted by Unguarded
I am talking about calling hands in the BB that are clear folds in solverland. I just plan to play everything pretty "normal". I worry that if I try to force things with the extra hands, I will likely just lose with them.
GTO is already very wide calling from the BB versus a 2.5x BN raise. Some recs have us playing almost all suited hands anyway and 3 betting 10-12% and flatting 40-45% for a total defense range well over 50%. To play any wider you'd be playing hands like 92s and T5off. Those hands have almost no value in and of themselves and in fact can get you in trouble with reverse io when you make weak-pair-weak kick.
If you 3 bet a BN raiser then at least you have fold equity versus the BN raiser's very wide opening range and you have the initiative and can lead-c-bet the flop. Rather than flatting more, I actually think it may be better to just add some combos to your 3 betting range, above and beyond whatever GTO recommends. I assume we want to do this linearally, but I would be open to the idea that maybe adding 3 betting hands should be done in a polarized way. I think that would depend on villain type and anticipated response.
Overdefending by over-flatting pre, and then playing 'normal' ABC post-flop, is going to result in you folding an awful lot and then instead of paying 1bb per round, you are paying 2.5 or 3 bb per round and ytou establish a loose-passive table image. An observant opponent who concludes that you call too much and then fold on the flop too much should open his BN range even wider AND increase his open raise size AND c-bet 100%. Check-calling with weak made hands is not a great way to go. Aggressive opponents are going to make it difficult for you to go very far with these bottom pair-bad kicker type of hands.