Hi 2+2,

both of them are unknown villians and I am struggeling to give them ranges.
I discount KK+, AK, because of 3-betting it is standard to most players.

I guess they will continue w/ any FD and str8 draws. Additional w/ KT+, QT+ so my hand is dominatet. Unless I am blocking a T and a Q what makes JT, QJ, KQ, more unlikely.

I this case I have less than 25 % equity against to players. But there are a lot of dangerous Turn cards to me.
Is it corret to bet my med Pair with weak/no Kicker OTF?

And to fire a seceond barrel OTT, since turn does not bring a realy dangerous card. It doesn´t fit any draws.


SB: $1.43 (28.6 bb)
BB: $8.65 (173 bb)
UTG: $6.84 (136.8 bb)
MP: $5.02 (100.4 bb)
CO: $8.39 (167.8 bb)
Hero (BTN): $5 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q T
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.14, SB calls $0.12, BB calls $0.09

Flop: ($0.42) Q 5 K (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.21, SB calls $0.21, BB calls $0.21

Turn: ($1.05) 8 (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.52, 2 folds

I don't mind checking back flop sometimes, when they both call otf don't bet turn
why are u betting turn?value?turning your hand into a bluff? and what are you going to do if called ott?

Good question, I am not sure what to do - so I bet. If the both call OTT somtimes I get the possibility to xback river for free showdown.

As said, I bet again cause the of 8 does not complet any draw. And a second x/ let me think they are weak.
Maybe I try to hard to win every hand.

If they both call ott i think the free showdown is not that helpful to you, you're just going to check back and lose most of the times, that's why i was asking why did you bet turn.
If only one player called your bet otf i think your line is better, and the free showdown is more valuable, but when they both call otf i'm not a fan of betting the turn, mostly because you're kind of turning your hand into a bluff that is very unlikely to work if your plan is to check river (to be clear i'm not saying that b turn and b river is good)

I'm super surprised both folded OTT, definitely expecting at least one K after both called the flop.

I check back flop and turn three way here.

As played betting turn is spew.

As Hive said, if you're called OTT I don't think we're good often at all checking river for showdown either.