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QQ vs 2 maniac (bad players) 200BB's deep OOP QQ vs 2 maniac (bad players) 200BB's deep OOP

09-04-2007 , 01:52 PM
Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $404.00
Hero (BB): $966.60
UTG: $423.10
MP: $400.00
CO: $904.20
BTN: $1,024.60

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q Q (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP raises to $14.00, CO folds, BTN raises to $44.00, SB folds, Hero calls $40.00, MP calls $30.00

Flop: ($134) 2 8 8 (3 Players)
Hero checks, MP checks, BTN bets $65.00, Hero calls $65.00, MP raises all-in to $356.00, BTN calls $291.00, [i]Hero ???

Ok, MP is unknown except at this table. He's been very loose, ie, he seems to over value hands that better players wouldn't (felting top pair and decent kicker, etc).

Button has also been wayyy over playing hands in this session. I'm playing 3 tables with him and he's doing it on all tables. Both villians appear to be gunning for each other as they are just getting into every pot and really trying to take each other on.

So, although I don't respect either player, bad players do show up with KK or AA from time to time And they are so reckless that one could easily still have an 8.

My last problem is that although I'm trapping preflop and on the flop (yes I know some will flame away at this), that with the button betting flop, Sb (me) calling, the MP has no problem check raising all in here? And then, the Button (who has 200BB's with me) flat calls there? How can I possibly be ahead of both of them?

Do I fold? call? raise?
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09-04-2007 , 02:24 PM
fold, if you were actually ahead follow them around for the rest of your career.
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09-04-2007 , 02:35 PM
yeah I fold this. I'd lead the flop though.
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09-04-2007 , 07:20 PM
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fold, if you were actually ahead follow them around for the rest of your career.
I did fold. They BOTH had JJ and were drawing dead on the flop...this hand happened a while ago and I'm not sure if I'll ever get over it

Profit of 3 buy ins because they are so bad. But yeah, as you said, I'll never forget either and I'll hunt them down from now on. Thanks for your input, the whole two of you
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