Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
QQ, villain 3 bet pre, king and Q high flush draw flop QQ, villain 3 bet pre, king and Q high flush draw flop

02-17-2011 , 04:59 AM
villains stats are 9/8/67/ over 73 hands

Full Tilt Poker $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

CO: $1042.75
BTN: $400.00
SB: $412.00
BB: $353.20
UTG: $164.80
UTG+1: $1169.00
Hero (MP1): $509.50
MP2: $285.40

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is MP1 with Q Q
UTG raises to $10, 1 fold, Hero calls $10, MP2 calls $10, 1 fold, BTN raises to $44, 3 folds, Hero calls $34, 1 fold

Flop: ($114.00) 8 K 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $84

..what is the best line..what did I do wrong if anything
QQ, villain 3 bet pre, king and Q high flush draw flop Quote
02-17-2011 , 05:12 AM
if you have problems on this flop just fold pre.
QQ, villain 3 bet pre, king and Q high flush draw flop Quote
02-17-2011 , 05:37 AM
C/c ez game
QQ, villain 3 bet pre, king and Q high flush draw flop Quote
02-17-2011 , 05:58 AM
lol fullring
QQ, villain 3 bet pre, king and Q high flush draw flop Quote
02-17-2011 , 09:19 AM
9/8...

First 3-bet? I fold pre.

As played, c/c flop, c/r turn.
QQ, villain 3 bet pre, king and Q high flush draw flop Quote
02-17-2011 , 09:31 AM
yah flop seems like an easy c/c, see a turn.

why would you ever c/r the turn?
QQ, villain 3 bet pre, king and Q high flush draw flop Quote
02-17-2011 , 09:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Imaginary F(r)iend
9/8...

First 3-bet? I fold pre.

As played, c/c flop, c/r turn.
was just about to +1 then i saw this bit. no!!!!!
QQ, villain 3 bet pre, king and Q high flush draw flop Quote
02-17-2011 , 10:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GSWarriors
lol fullring
haha this you can almost fold the flop
QQ, villain 3 bet pre, king and Q high flush draw flop Quote
02-17-2011 , 10:58 AM
Call PF, call flop, end up losing somehow, curse nits. Standard FR experience.
QQ, villain 3 bet pre, king and Q high flush draw flop Quote
02-17-2011 , 11:03 AM
Fold pre. As played c/c flop and c/f any turn that's not a spade or a Q.
QQ, villain 3 bet pre, king and Q high flush draw flop Quote
02-17-2011 , 11:42 AM
Um guys this is the medium stakes plnl forum not 6max shorthanded forum. Full ring is a very legitimate game. Move in on the flop he migjt fold Ak or AA w/o a spade and you are only worried about these two hands with the As or KK which you still have 25% equity verse.
QQ, villain 3 bet pre, king and Q high flush draw flop Quote
02-17-2011 , 11:46 AM
Why don't you think you can call the extra 34 PF? There's already 80 in there, with another 356 in effective stacks. No way I'm folding PF.
QQ, villain 3 bet pre, king and Q high flush draw flop Quote
02-17-2011 , 01:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by girah
Fold pre. As played c/c flop and c/f any turn that's not a spade or a Q.
+1
QQ, villain 3 bet pre, king and Q high flush draw flop Quote
02-17-2011 , 10:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CopTHIS
Why don't you think you can call the extra 34 PF? There's already 80 in there, with another 356 in effective stacks. No way I'm folding PF.
Since you don't have set odds.
QQ, villain 3 bet pre, king and Q high flush draw flop Quote
02-17-2011 , 10:42 PM
fold flop there is nothing you beat
QQ, villain 3 bet pre, king and Q high flush draw flop Quote
02-18-2011 , 12:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by smittymatt
Move in on the flop he migjt fold Ak or AA w/o a spade and you are only worried about these two hands with the As or KK which you still have 25% equity verse.
people bet/fold these hands in real life?
QQ, villain 3 bet pre, king and Q high flush draw flop Quote
02-18-2011 , 02:10 AM
I cant tell how many of these replies are levels.. so I'll say c/c flop.
QQ, villain 3 bet pre, king and Q high flush draw flop Quote
02-18-2011 , 02:51 AM
Why are we flatting a 160 stack open with QQ? Is he a nit too?
QQ, villain 3 bet pre, king and Q high flush draw flop Quote
02-18-2011 , 05:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Imaginary F(r)iend
Since you don't have set odds.
Firstly, you prob do have set odds. Secondly, there is some value in the pot even when you don't hit a set. We only have 70-odd hands on the guy, so even if you want to discount JJ/AK etc considerably against AA/KK they are a real possibility and bad nitty FR players let you win in these cases more easily than you may imgaine yet still never get away from the hand if they do have AA/KK.
QQ, villain 3 bet pre, king and Q high flush draw flop Quote
02-18-2011 , 10:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by smittymatt
Um guys this is the medium stakes plnl forum not 6max shorthanded forum. Full ring is a very legitimate game. Move in on the flop he migjt fold Ak or AA w/o a spade and you are only worried about these two hands with the As or KK which you still have 25% equity verse.
There is a fr section for mid and highstakes so gtfo.
QQ, villain 3 bet pre, king and Q high flush draw flop Quote
02-18-2011 , 04:20 PM
3-bag the non-full stack utg opener for starters. As played....ummm....punch yourself in the face for playing FR.
QQ, villain 3 bet pre, king and Q high flush draw flop Quote
02-18-2011 , 04:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CopTHIS
Firstly, you prob do have set odds. Secondly, there is some value in the pot even when you don't hit a set. We only have 70-odd hands on the guy, so even if you want to discount JJ/AK etc considerably against AA/KK they are a real possibility and bad nitty FR players let you win in these cases more easily than you may imgaine yet still never get away from the hand if they do have AA/KK.
1. You don't have set odds.
2. Who said that he's bad?
QQ, villain 3 bet pre, king and Q high flush draw flop Quote
02-19-2011 , 06:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Imaginary F(r)iend
1. You don't have set odds.
2. Who said that he's bad?
Well I disagree - you do have set odds.

As for villian, if he really is 9/8 then how good do you think he is? I play FR a fair bit and have yet to see a player with those stats who is decent. And if the 9/8 stat is misleading on that sample then that adds to the value you may get without hitting a set.
QQ, villain 3 bet pre, king and Q high flush draw flop Quote
02-19-2011 , 06:36 AM
not call/calling pre OOP ever with anything
QQ, villain 3 bet pre, king and Q high flush draw flop Quote
02-19-2011 , 07:25 AM
We definitely don't have odds pf to play only for a set.
QQ, villain 3 bet pre, king and Q high flush draw flop Quote

      
m