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QQ squeezed by button QQ squeezed by button

06-21-2014 , 12:55 PM
PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 11.58, PFR: 10.35, 3Bet Preflop: 3.95, Hands: 554)
SB: 116.4 BB (VPIP: 11.85, PFR: 8.98, 3Bet Preflop: 1.98, Hands: 562)
BB: 110.7 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
UTG: 119.8 BB (VPIP: 23.53, PFR: 17.65, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
Hero (UTG+1): 100 BB
UTG+2: 97.9 BB (VPIP: 10.43, PFR: 8.70, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 115)
MP: 100.9 BB (VPIP: 10.71, PFR: 8.78, 3Bet Preflop: 3.26, Hands: 474)
MP+1: 71.8 BB (VPIP: 13.73, PFR: 9.80, 3Bet Preflop: 4.00, Hands: 51)
CO: 194.3 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q Q

UTG raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 17 BB, utg folds hero?

Last edited by kingspoofer; 06-21-2014 at 12:56 PM. Reason: update
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06-21-2014 , 02:25 PM
I guess it depends how wide you think he is squeezing here. Do you have btn 3bet stats on him? I wouldn't want to flat here and play OOP, so this is either a 4bet or a fold I think. He has pretty nitty stats, but I could def see QQ being ahead of his 3bet range here, which means 4bet. Idk though, like I said i would want to look at his BTN stats first. If he 3bets basically the same range from everywhere (true nit) I would fold, but if its wider in LP then I'd 4bet.
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06-21-2014 , 02:34 PM
I'd fold and not tell anybody. He's squeezing an utg raiser (utg isn't nitty but sample is negligible) while we should have a strong range here and he's a nit.
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06-21-2014 , 02:39 PM
I might get flamed but I 3bet pre to isolate UTG.
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06-21-2014 , 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by MeltingNe0
I might get flamed but I 3bet pre to isolate UTG.
Idk... I'd assume UTG opens are pretty nitty until his stats tell me otherwise. We just don't have a big enough sample on him. Then what would you do if he 4bets? Puts you in a ****ty spot IMO.
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06-21-2014 , 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by MeltingNe0
I might get flamed but I 3bet pre to isolate UTG.
This is only an option if UTG is likely to flat a high % of the time oop, which most players aren't. Most competent villains will fold which isnt great, or 4b which puts us in a gross spot where we probably have to fold. I agree with the flat pre, as played I probably fold to the button and make a note of it.
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06-21-2014 , 03:16 PM
Yeah, not a fan of overrepping our hand and ironically, isolating ourselves against mostly better hands and maybe an AK that likely won't payoff without having us beaten.
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06-21-2014 , 03:26 PM
QQ crushes my UTG opening range. I'm a TAG player 17/13ish and my UTG opening range is 99+, AQs, and AK. But I didn't take the small sample size into consideration.
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06-21-2014 , 03:41 PM
You're opening range UTG doesnt really matter that much. More important is what hands you will continue with..
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06-21-2014 , 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Nerdy
I guess it depends how wide you think he is squeezing here. Do you have btn 3bet stats on him? I wouldn't want to flat here and play OOP, so this is either a 4bet or a fold I think. He has pretty nitty stats, but I could def see QQ being ahead of his 3bet range here, which means 4bet. Idk though, like I said i would want to look at his BTN stats first. If he 3bets basically the same range from everywhere (true nit) I would fold, but if its wider in LP then I'd 4bet.
Only correct if he never folds to 4bets.
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06-21-2014 , 04:34 PM
Villian stats are fairly tight not sure he's squeezing here .my issue is he's only 3 betting 4% not too big . His bet sizing is 17bb of a 3bet if I 4 bet even min raise it's 34 bb nearly pot committed best I am hoping for is ak when he 5 bet jams
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06-22-2014 , 01:55 PM
I'd fold.

When a tight player puts in a big squeeze against an UTG raise and UTG+1 call he's got a good hand. I'd be surprised if he's doing this with anything other than KK+. If Hero was deeper or in position I could see an argument for calling to set mine but I don't think it's particularly profitable when you're OOP 100bb deep.
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06-22-2014 , 02:28 PM
I fold in these spots but I thought I was a nit for doing so. It's good to see I'm not the only one who does.
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06-22-2014 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by qwertz1
You're opening range UTG doesnt really matter that much. More important is what hands you will continue with..
should i have 3 bet the utg with qq ? what are you doing in this spot when Villain 3 bets to 17bb ?
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06-22-2014 , 08:15 PM
I fold here and it doesn't bother me to do so. It beats flatting OOP vs. a presumably very strong range and it beats 4betting and calling when he shoves a range we are always behind and 4bet-fold is gross.
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06-22-2014 , 09:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MeltingNe0
QQ crushes my UTG opening range. I'm a TAG player 17/13ish and my UTG opening range is 99+, AQs, and AK. But I didn't take the small sample size into consideration.
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Originally Posted by qwertz1
You're opening range UTG doesnt really matter that much. More important is what hands you will continue with..
What qwertz said.
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