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06-13-2017 , 01:29 AM
I've been commenting on hands and haven't posted any in a while. I'd like to say hello to all you micro stake grinders out there.

I have huge respect for you guys as I'm having a hard time even beating 2NL... anyone who's looking to improve their game I tip my hat to you.

If you're crushing - please respond to this hand and help me understand where I made a mistake.

Thank you

    WPN, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37753243

    BTN: $3.94 (197 bb)
    SB: $3.33 (166.5 bb)
    BB: $2.07 (103.5 bb)
    UTG: $5.88 (294 bb)
    Hero (MP): $2.37 (118.5 bb)
    CO: $2.09 (104.5 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with Q Q
    UTG raises to $0.06, Hero raises to $0.17, CO raises to $0.60, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.43

    Flop: ($1.29) 4 A 8 (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO checks

    Turn: ($1.29) T (2 players)
    Hero bets $0.61, CO raises to $1.49 and is all-in Hero??



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    Should I have 5-bet pre-flop against the CO? Once we bet turn are we pretty much stuck and priced in on a call?
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    06-13-2017 , 04:13 AM
    I think checking turn is better, and probably even just x/f-ing. V has cold 4bet an UTG open and MP 3bet so should be very strong (KK+, AKs at loosest I'd say for 2NL). QQ is a bluffcatcher in this spot and you probably don't have a valuebet on any street with an A high flop.
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    06-13-2017 , 04:26 AM
    Fold preflop.
    Also, I don't think bluffing turn is a good idea, since I don't expect people at 2NL to fold KK here.
    As played, he has AA/AK here 99% of the time.
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    06-13-2017 , 04:51 AM
    Fold pre. Villain is making a largish 4bet vs someone 3betting vs UTG. You're a dog vs his range. KK+, AK, and AK is probably just flatting your 3bet a good amount of the time.
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    06-13-2017 , 12:17 PM
    pre is kinda gross but I would just sigh and fold

    x/f turn as well we will have AK here at some freq as well as AA

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    06-13-2017 , 12:24 PM
    Do you have stats on the opponent? I'd fold pre if he's nitty or TAG, but if he's a LAG, I'd call his 4-bet and check the flop.

    I'd x/f turn and x/f river
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    06-13-2017 , 01:26 PM
    rofl at fold pre... what the ****...
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    06-13-2017 , 01:29 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mrno1324
    rofl at fold pre... what the ****...
    This board has definitely gotten nittier in the last couple of weeks, or maybe it just feels that way.

    I thought this was crazy too but guessed i was wrong with the number of people concurring.

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    06-13-2017 , 01:39 PM
    I shove pre but I'm spewy.

    I'm not spewy enough to bet the turn though.
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    06-13-2017 , 01:49 PM
    I would most likely shove pre (although I play in a fishier room). AP when calling pre I'd give up on K or A high boards, you could only consider calling one street if you think V is likely to 4bet something like JJ pre in these positions and then bluff it, but that's unlikely so I wouldn't be too sad folding postflop. Never betting in this spot unless I hit a set.
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    06-13-2017 , 01:58 PM
    ACR is no joke even 2NL. How many hands do you have in?

    Never flatting that huge 4b. Depending on the V I'm mostly just GII pre. X turn.
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    06-13-2017 , 02:01 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mrno1324
    rofl at fold pre... what the ****...
    i generally agree with u a lot but I think we have to fold pre here to the 4bet. 1. villain can't reasonably expect to have enough FE given how strong our range and UTG range is to get a bluff through so the chances that he is 4betting light is near-zero. 2. on the same token, he can really only expect to 4bet AA for value, as even KK will feel hopelessly crushed against a jam from either player. as a result, when an unknown misplays his range in this spot specifically, it's generally gonna be harder for them to be overbluffing than underbluffing. i think balancing a 4bet range in this spot is impossible and BTN should flat his entire range (of JJ+, AK) to this action. i mean yea u can make the argument that people will spaz with JJ here but it's really not that likely and I expect it to be KK+ way too often for us to be good even on a call

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    06-13-2017 , 02:04 PM
    I don't think a call pre flop is terrible with 2-1 odds unless its a tight villain who would not 4 bet AK. I don't think a fold is terrible either.

    But if you call, you need to completely give up whenever an overcard hits.

    Your turn bet is basically a bluff for KK, which is both unlikely to work, and only part of villain's range.
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    06-13-2017 , 02:13 PM
    I would fold pre. You're getting cold 4bet after UTG raise and you 3bet from MP. We should go with a good assumption that his range is KK+ AK. If you do want to play it you have to shove pre or fold. Calling OOP here is hoping that the flop doesn't have A or K and he decides to bluff with AK or his air (cold 4bet from CO is basically never air).

    As played I try to check it down the whole way - don't see any reason to bet the turn.
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