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12-03-2008 , 02:46 AM

technologic

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villain is infamous nano on stars, who always pwns me....what do you do to the c/r here? if you raise, how much? if you call, what's the plan on the turn?

Party Poker $400.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (BTN): $674.10
SB: $211.60
BB: $400.00
UTG: $411.00
MP: $550.00
CO: $697.20

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is BTN with Q

1 fold, MP raises to $14, CO calls $14, Hero raises to $52, 3 folds, CO calls $38

Flop: ($124.00) 5

(2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $60.00, CO raises to $160

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12-03-2008 , 02:49 AM

MatthewRyan

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honestly I would straight jam, as I would with any pair that I 3 bet +bet preflop (i.e TT/JJ+), or with any flush draw, or with 78, or with any AX you RR'd.

QQ is an instashove

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12-03-2008 , 02:57 AM

tannenj

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click it back

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12-03-2008 , 03:08 AM

dtan05

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Originally Posted by tannenj

click it back

yup

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12-03-2008 , 03:10 AM

Moonshine

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not the easiest jam ever but prob like 3rd or 4th

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12-03-2008 , 03:32 AM

technologic

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ok, i guess this was just a dumb spot check, i raised to 300 (LOL?) he shoved, i cawled...he had third nuts and my 6th nuts binked a Q on the river.

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12-03-2008 , 04:09 AM

MCizz

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i hope you like jammin' too

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12-03-2008 , 04:44 AM

billybeartku

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cib and then stack him. ez game against him.

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12-03-2008 , 06:10 AM

Alpha 5.20

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Easisest shove ever?

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12-03-2008 , 07:26 AM

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Daddy Warbucks

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Originally Posted by technologic

ok, i guess this was just a dumb spot check, i raised to 300 (LOL?) he shoved, i cawled...he had third nuts and my 6th nuts binked a Q on the river.

What number nuts did you have on the river?

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12-03-2008 , 07:28 AM

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aseHigh

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Originally Posted by technologic

ok, i guess this was just a dumb spot check, i raised to 300 (LOL?) he shoved, i cawled...he had third nuts and my 6th nuts binked a Q on the river.

any reason why he flatted AA vs you there ?

Last edited by aseHigh; 12-03-2008 at 07:28 AM. Reason: pre .. LDO

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12-03-2008 , 07:29 AM

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aseHigh

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Originally Posted by Daddy Warbucks

What number nuts did you have on the river?

3.5th

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12-03-2008 , 07:39 AM

#13

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Originally Posted by aseHigh

any reason why he flatted AA vs you there ?

He had 55 IMO.

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12-03-2008 , 07:45 AM

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Erik W

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Originally Posted by technologic

ok, i guess this was just a dumb spot check, i raised to 300 (LOL?) he shoved, i cawled...he had third nuts and my 6th nuts binked a Q on the river.

6th nuts is Q6

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12-03-2008 , 07:49 AM

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rand0

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Originally Posted by technologic

ok, i guess this was just a dumb spot check, i raised to 300 (LOL?) he shoved, i cawled...he had third nuts and my 6th nuts binked a Q on the river.

is this some kind of a test?

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12-03-2008 , 08:25 AM

#16

insyder19

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lol @ deep

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12-03-2008 , 12:06 PM

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technologic

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Originally Posted by rand0

is this some kind of a test?

lol, yeah one i failed

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12-03-2008 , 12:07 PM

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technologic

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Originally Posted by insyder19

lol @ deep

meh? at what point in my stack size does this become a call/fold rather than a shove?

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12-03-2008 , 12:31 PM

#19

Redgrape

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Fold to flop raise

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12-03-2008 , 12:56 PM

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Chaser8

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I'm gonna go against the crowd here and say I'd flat the flop at 150bb deep.

We can let him continue with his bluffs and play our position.
I just don't see any good villain turning his 99-JJ into a bluff here; it's suicide imo. We're not pwning his range if we get it in because it's just going to consist of monsters + flush draw.

If we're 100bb deep, then I'd lean towards a shove.

edit: i poasted before results came out.

Last edited by Chaser8; 12-03-2008 at 01:03 PM.

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12-03-2008 , 01:11 PM

#21

Alpha 5.20

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Nanonoko wont bluff you very often if you flat but he can call you down fairly light if you just shove this.

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12-03-2008 , 01:13 PM

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Daddy Warbucks

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Originally Posted by technologic

lol, yeah one i failed

So what hand did he actually have? AA?

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12-03-2008 , 01:27 PM

#23

Alpha 5.20

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Anyways if he has you beat he's gonna stack you as you cant really fold QQ on that board.

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12-03-2008 , 01:35 PM

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clarkatroid

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no one is folding in ops spot here.

i cant see how anything other than a plan of how to get all the chips in the middle is +ev. but maybe im missing something