Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
QQ club flush... river fold??? QQ club flush... river fold???

07-30-2010 , 02:05 AM
villian is 32/27... with the big bet on the turn and then the near pot river bet... does this look like ace high flush... criticism plz?
\
Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (BTN): $25.91
SB: $25.95
BB: $25.75
UTG: $41.35
MP: $20.23
CO: $25.57

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with Q Q
2 folds, CO raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.50, SB calls $2.40, 2 folds

Flop: ($6.00) K 6 4 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($6.00) 3 (2 players)
SB bets $4, Hero calls $4

River: ($14.00) 5 (2 players)
SB bets $9.25, Hero calls $9.25
QQ club flush... river fold??? Quote
07-30-2010 , 02:06 AM
bet flop ffs
QQ club flush... river fold??? Quote
07-30-2010 , 02:18 AM
why do i bet flop and what is ffs?
QQ club flush... river fold??? Quote
07-30-2010 , 02:19 AM
This line looks like villain's got AcX or KcX, but I don't know if Kcx in his range, even for a 32/27. What's his fold to 3bet stat? I'd probably just fold here.
QQ club flush... river fold??? Quote
07-30-2010 , 02:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by evan.42
why do i bet flop and what is ffs?
because worse hands will call, because we bet this flop with our air, and draws, and made hands etc
QQ club flush... river fold??? Quote
07-30-2010 , 02:21 AM
so if he calls the flop do we just give up how do we play later streets?
QQ club flush... river fold??? Quote
07-30-2010 , 02:30 AM
Checking this flop can't be that bad. We're likely getting two streets from hands we beat, and there aren't many draws to collect on. As played call the river.
QQ club flush... river fold??? Quote
07-30-2010 , 02:31 AM
This is played well imo.
QQ club flush... river fold??? Quote
07-30-2010 , 02:45 AM
i like how you played this but river is a pretty thing call
QQ club flush... river fold??? Quote
07-30-2010 , 02:49 AM
I'm sorry but this is a pretty clear flop bet...
QQ club flush... river fold??? Quote
07-30-2010 , 02:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dcredskins24
I'm sorry but this is a pretty clear flop bet...
Don't like betting the flop because I think he just jams with his draws OOP and I don't think we can profitably bet/call the flop. Checking still allows us to get value from worse pocket pairs, and a guy this aggressive will probably start trying to bluff us off our hand when we check back.
QQ club flush... river fold??? Quote
07-30-2010 , 02:56 AM
i think the flop check is good as well. You get more value from worse pairs by betting turn +river than flop + turn, + you might induce bluffs, + i dont think flush draws are going to make a large portion of his range, + who cares about balancing at the micros.
QQ club flush... river fold??? Quote
07-30-2010 , 02:56 AM
u played it fine......if he bets flop what do we do if villain raises????
QQ club flush... river fold??? Quote
07-30-2010 , 03:08 AM
Betting this flop is only getting called by Kx hands (Mostly KJ here) and suited Ace hands, folding out TT-JJ most likely (and smaller PP like 88/99 if he's really bad and calls OOP with these).

When we check, then he may cc a street or 2 with TT-JJ. When we bet there is no way we get 2 streets vs these hands, and probably not even one.

When he bets on the turn he looks like Kx, a flush, or an AcX (AcJx,AcTx,AcQx). He may also bet this with TT/JJ, but I would guess those would check call against most opponents.

Many 32-27 guys are pretty aggressive, so I wouldn't doubt that he could bet this with TT/JJ, so calling this turn is good, especially since you have a redraw to a flush.

Depending on how aggressive this guy is, I think you're going to see Kc or Ac a lot here on the river when he bets again 2/3 Pot here, so I think river is a fold. It's pretty thin to assume that this range has many J or T high flushes in it's range, other than KxJc, which is 3 combinations only, while Acx and KcX have more. Sure his TcTx and JcJx hands rivered a flush, but really.. so few combos.

With his non suited hands I expect him to either c/f or maybe cc, unless of course he is really aggressive then calling may be justified.

I think the play overall is fine, although I'd probably fold this river without an agg factor of 6+
QQ club flush... river fold??? Quote
07-30-2010 , 03:23 AM
if he was 32/7 i would bet flop, but he is 32/27 so i check the flop b/c he is probably aggressive postflop.

well played as is.
QQ club flush... river fold??? Quote
07-30-2010 , 03:27 AM
i think we would all be idiots to say that either checking or betting is awful
QQ club flush... river fold??? Quote
07-30-2010 , 04:20 AM
i like how you played the hand
QQ club flush... river fold??? Quote
07-30-2010 , 04:22 AM
Whats your image? I like betting the flop
QQ club flush... river fold??? Quote

      
m