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03-19-2016 , 01:54 AM
PokerStars - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+1: 102.7 BB (VPIP: 18.72, PFR: 12.78, 3Bet Preflop: 2.86, Hands: 461)
MP+2: 277.1 BB (VPIP: 32.21, PFR: 26.85, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 151)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 44.44, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
BTN: 101.6 BB (VPIP: 16.44, PFR: 15.10, 3Bet Preflop: 5.94, Hands: 301)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 21.09, PFR: 12.61, 3Bet Preflop: 3.99, Hands: 1,001)
Hero (BB): 108.6 BB
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 13.09, PFR: 11.64, 3Bet Preflop: 6.86, Hands: 280)
UTG+1: 38.5 BB (VPIP: 14.98, PFR: 13.19, 3Bet Preflop: 5.34, Hands: 331)
MP: 96.5 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q Q

fold, fold, fold, fold, MP+2 raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 11 BB, MP+2 calls 8 BB

Flop: (22.5 BB, 2 players) 6 2 3
Hero bets 16 BB, MP+2 raises to 48 BB, Hero??

So this guy is obviously super active. Once he raises my cbet big it's obvious he isn't folding so I'm thinking I have to shove or fold. Does he have enough lower pairs and draws and random spew in his range to go with it here in a 3b pot?

Some more info: AF of 5 but has not raised a cbet yet in 7 opportunities
Fold to 3bet 0% (0/5)
Fold to flop cbet 57% (4/7)
WTSD 34%

Other 2 relevant hands I saw of him:
-He raised K8cc in the CO, raised a donk from SB on K25dd, bet half pot on the turn which was an offsuit 7, and shoved the river which was an offsuit A. He got called by KT
-He called a multiway single raised pot with 94s, slowplayed trip 4's on 448 flop for 2 streets and got stacked by 88 on the river where it went b/raise/shove, he shoved.

Last edited by rAv; 03-19-2016 at 02:01 AM.
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03-19-2016 , 02:05 AM
Looking at it again I think it's fairly obvious but curious what you guys think
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03-19-2016 , 04:55 AM
He can do this with higher pairs, flushdraws and spew and would have 4b AA/KK most likely. So you're only losing against 66, 22, 33, 45 which he could very well slowplay based on previous hands.
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03-19-2016 , 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Ron!n
He can do this with higher pairs, flushdraws and spew and would have 4b AA/KK most likely. So you're only losing against 66, 22, 33, 45 which he could very well slowplay based on previous hands.
So you ship it in then?
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03-19-2016 , 07:20 AM
Yes. Calling doesnt really accomplish much More i think and folding is out of the question i feel.
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03-19-2016 , 07:39 AM
This guys range is wider than the nuts, especially on this board. I'm shoving.
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03-19-2016 , 11:04 PM
Ok thanks. Hero shipped, villain snapped with 33
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03-19-2016 , 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by rAv
Ok thanks. Hero shipped, villain snapped with 33
To be fair though, you wouldn't have posted it if you had won the hand
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03-19-2016 , 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Husker
To be fair though, you wouldn't have posted it if you had won the hand

True enough lol.
I've been running and playing badly lately and I guess I just needed a sanity check on this one
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03-20-2016 , 07:42 AM
Yeah that's understandable
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03-22-2016 , 12:18 AM
Against that kind of player on this kind of board I wouldn't have thought twice. His range is wide and you're almost never getting information that's useful from your bets against him. You said you lost cause you got out tripped, but at the of the day that's one of benefits of playing that outlandish aggressive style.

Anyway I'm new and you got your answer but I wanted to give my two cents anyway.
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