7 hands in no reads

100NL FR 8 handed
2 folds
LJ ($101.91) opens $3
HJ ($63.17) flat
CO ($61.02) flat
Hero BTN ($99.50) 3bets $15
blinds fold
LJ and HJ call

Flop $49.50 5d7cTd

LJ ($86.91) check
HJ ($48.17) check
Hero ($84.50) Jam

I was thinking LJ probably re-raises pre with AA/KK to smaller the field, they could have TT and I'd be surprised to see 77 often in this pool. I'm really trying to iso HJ with <1PSB.

Thoughts?

Where do you get that from? These players are terrible. I mean the HJ starts 60BB and plays a call-call line. He is bad. Or do you mean LJ shouldn't have 77? That's much more reasonable.

Squeeze larger, to at least 20, I wouldn't mind going up as much as 25.

I think I'm slightly confused by your wording, but if your argument is that you should be ahead of the LJ almost all of the time and can play very unbalanced in order to try and get value from the HJ, I think that's quite convincing, I quite like it

Yeah the comments were for LJ's range. HJ is bad they could have anything lol.

Yep that was what I was trying to say. I'm not the best with words.

Cheers for you comment. I think I'll try raising more pre. I thought I'd scare everyone off but I'm sure the fish would still bite.

I would agree. 15 appears a little light and entices some bad players to play trashy hands causing problems on later streets.

Not a fan of the jam on the flop. Possibly a close to pot size bet ?? Willing to to be convinced otherwise though.

If I bet pot do I ever fold to LJ's jam if they do?
Or even if I bet half pot and leave my self with 1 PSB vs LJ do I ever fold to their jam?

The flop jam didn't feel great, that's why I thought I'd come ask what you people thought. Cheers for the comment.

To convince you, or to tell you my thoughts that convinced me was: I want to keep betting and not give a free card. I want to bet at least half pot. If I'm pot committing myself then maybe I can lower the field by putting max pressure on LJ assuming HJ will get it in with nearly any equity.

I should note I have QcQs (no diamond)

In the scenario of LJ check, HJ check, Hero bets pot , LJ jams I would probably call.

LJ did not 4 bet pre and did not lead out on the flop which leads me to think not on AA or KK (although could slow play). LJ would probably lead out on flop with JJ as it could check through offering a dangerous free card to HJ or yourself. LJ could be jamming over the top with AdKd which would tie into their preflop action.

It would be a call of $35 into $185.91 which you win 45%-ish (i think that's right??) and if he does end up jamming JJ or AdQd then happy days as you are better off.

Almost definitely HJ does not have AA or KK. HJ closes the action pre so (based on stack) could be tempted to play pairs 99+. If they did not fold the LJ jam on the flop in this hypothetical scenario then they could easily be on TT.

Did they fold to your flop jam?

LJ is never check-jamming as a bluff because the player in between can have all the nut hands, so you can comfortably fold yourself

The question then is how you generate max value from the player in between, with a small bet or a jam. If you jam yourself of course you give up a little bit of equity from the fact that the LJ will be able to play perfectly against you, you're balancing that against trying to get value from the bad player. The LJ shouldn't be CRing you even if you bet small because of the player in between though. Not sure on the maths but I reckon your jam is still OK

I think that's a good point. Me jamming lets them play perfectly so in that regard its a less EV play. I think I'll go for the half or slightly less than half pot bet next time.

Result. LJ called with TT, HJ folded 66. LJ held.