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05-01-2014 , 09:04 AM
Do you bet OTT with GS?

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em $0.02 Ante - 9 players -

BB: $13.29
UTG: $13.18
UTG+1: $18.68
UTG+2: $16.14
MP1: $13.03
MP2: $25.42
Hero (CO): $10.00
BTN: $25.00
SB: $87.59

Pre Flop: ($0.33) Hero is CO with J Q
UTG calls $0.10, 3 folds, MP2 calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.50, 3 folds, UTG calls $0.40, MP2 calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.83) 9 2 9 (3 players)
UTG checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($1.83) 8 (3 players)
UTG checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks

River: ($1.83) K (3 players)
UTG checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks
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05-01-2014 , 09:34 AM
Yes . Everyone's shown weakness twice
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05-01-2014 , 01:26 PM
I'd have Cbet that flop. Paired boards are very good spots to Cbet/stab because they are so hard to hit and it's a rainbow board to boot. As played, the best time to bluff is after our opponents check, and they have checked twice. I'm probably firing the turn and the riv here.

ATCWIZ
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05-01-2014 , 01:28 PM
i know but a lot of PPs can call
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05-01-2014 , 01:32 PM
Overcards, gutshot and the fact everyone looks weak make this a bet.
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05-01-2014 , 02:23 PM
If your isoing pre this is a great board to cbet... Yea some of their range will consist if PPs but you can DB scare cards like T,K,A.. As played on the turn I would bet since the show so much weakness
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05-02-2014 , 02:31 AM
Yes. You can cbet flop and then turn too since you have two overcards and a gutshot. Since river is a scare card you can barrel that too vs certain villains. Your queen high isn't gonna win by checking it down.
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05-02-2014 , 02:41 PM
You all gave advices to make at least one aggressive move. What if one or both of opponents are passive fish? We waste money in that case. Is raise after checks on two streets your default?
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05-02-2014 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by hazarder1980
You all gave advices to make at least one aggressive move. What if one or both of opponents are passive fish? We waste money in that case. Is raise after checks on two streets your default?
Even if our opponents are passive players I think that this flop is a great spot to bet because:
1. We have position
2. There are a lot of turn cards that can give us equity (T,Q,J,K). All of which I plan to fire again if called.

The turn is also a great spot to bet because we have picked up a draw and our opponents have now checked twice. I would plan to bet both the turn and river here.
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05-02-2014 , 03:35 PM
Imo this is a good path to fps.
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05-04-2014 , 04:13 AM
Imo flop texture is the worst street to bet at. I mean we're getting a lot of floats on it.

I d def bet turn or/and river
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05-04-2014 , 05:15 AM
Don't think pre is an auto iso. It should depend highly on UTG and MP2's limping ranges. We also let the blinds play more perfectly by letting them fold their J9o/Q8o/dominated flushes and connectors. Just some factors to keep in mind when debating raise vs. limp.

Flop really just depends how aggressive our opponents are. This is typically a great board to c-bet against loose limping ranges but if one of our opponents will play back with a c/r knowing this board favors the limper's range rather than the PFR then we should just give up. If called it's not the end of the world because as ppl in this thread have stated already there are lots of turns to barrel as long as our opponents play straightforward and c/f their pocket pairs and other weak hands.

On the turn our opponents have checked to us again which means there's a very high chance they have weak holdings, which means we should bet. If called that's ok because once again there are lots of rivers we can double barrel as a bluff.

On the river a bet should be profitable since mathematically our opponents won't have a K often enough if they have somewhat loose ranges.
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