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QJ, flush complete vs shove NL 10 QJ, flush complete vs shove NL 10

07-25-2015 , 05:33 AM
Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 2750806
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Hero (BTN): $10.00
SB: $16.64 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 10
BB: $10.00 - VPIP: 14, PFR: 10, 3B: 3, AF: 2.1, Hands: 1164
UTG: $10.50 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 13, 3B: 3, AF: 4.5, Hands: 615
UTG+1: $8.96 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 10, 3B: 6, AF: 2.0, Hands: 368
UTG+2: $21.68 - VPIP: 50, PFR: 8, 3B: 0, AF: 0.7, Hands: 12
MP1: $9.49 - VPIP: 14, PFR: 11, 3B: 4, AF: 2.4, Hands: 2666
MP2: $16.29 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 12, 3B: 4, AF: 1.8, Hands: 269
CO: $12.01 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 13, 3B: 8, AF: 2.5, Hands: 1608

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with Q J
2 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.10, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, 1 fold, BB calls $0.30, UTG+2 calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.25) K 8 9 (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $0.80, BB folds, UTG+2 calls $0.80

Turn: ($2.85) 7 (2 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $1.75, UTG+2 raises to $20.48, Hero folds

Few hands on villain, seemed to be a whale tho. Bet turn? Fold is good?
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07-25-2015 , 06:27 PM
Line looks fine to me. Not sure if betting or checking back flop is best, probably better to bet I think but not that much in it.
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07-25-2015 , 07:27 PM
I actually have a different view here. I'd prefer to x/c the turn as it keeps V's bluffs in then x/c the river.
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07-26-2015 , 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by tom frost
I actually have a different view here. I'd prefer to x/c the turn as it keeps V's bluffs in then x/c the river.
You can't x/c the turn when you're the one in position, and given we have the second nuts against a fish we always want to be betting here.
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07-26-2015 , 08:32 PM
I dont see though want the Turn bet is accomplishing.
Even if hes super fishy,is he gonna pay off 3 streets w like TP or like a T high flush?

If you were thinking you bet the Turn for a free showdown or maybe betting a tiny amount of the river i guess its cool,otherwise i think its too ambitious.

Maybe checking the turn to induce a bluff with something or a spazz bet from something like 78 or a tiny flush(if he had a pocket pair) on the river is better and also protects your range(you dont always check pairs etc,sometimes you check a preety good flush ),not that you need to against a fish but just sayin...
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07-27-2015 , 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by blakkkat
I dont see though want the Turn bet is accomplishing.
Even if hes super fishy,is he gonna pay off 3 streets w like TP or like a T high flush?

If you were thinking you bet the Turn for a free showdown or maybe betting a tiny amount of the river i guess its cool,otherwise i think its too ambitious.

Maybe checking the turn to induce a bluff with something or a spazz bet from something like 78 or a tiny flush(if he had a pocket pair) on the river is better and also protects your range(you dont always check pairs etc,sometimes you check a preety good flush ),not that you need to against a fish but just sayin...
Betting the turn is for pure value from weaker flushes. He's a fish, we have second nuts, most obvious valuebet ever. Bet turn, bet again on the river.
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