Villain is 45/24 over 424 hands

3bet 8% but 12% from BB

I 4bet because I'm not calling QJo when the guy will certainly barrel flop & probably turn, as he has been doing so far this session.


partypoker - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 154.32 BB (VPIP: 45.41, PFR: 24.45, 3Bet Preflop: 7.61, Hands: 474)
UTG: 104.44 BB (VPIP: 14.66, PFR: 12.07, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 117)
MP: 123.32 BB (VPIP: 20.63, PFR: 15.25, 3Bet Preflop: 5.68, Hands: 227)
Hero (CO): 254 BB
BTN: 220.28 BB (VPIP: 7.55, PFR: 3.77, 3Bet Preflop: 3.45, Hands: 53)
SB: 104.72 BB (VPIP: 27.57, PFR: 19.93, 3Bet Preflop: 13.95, Hands: 307)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q J

fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, BB raises to 10 BB, Hero raises to 23 BB, BB calls 13 BB

Flop: (46.4 BB, 2 players) 2 A J
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (46.4 BB, 2 players) Q
BB bets 22.04 BB, Hero calls 22.04 BB

River: (90.48 BB, 2 players) T
BB bets 109.28 BB and is all-in, fold

BB wins 195.24 BB


When he called the 4bet I checked his stats & was surprised to see he'd only called 17% (4/23) of 3bets. Given his loose stats, I thought it would be higher so I guesstimated that he's not calling complete nonsense to my 4bet here.

Flop is standard. Turn I considered raising because this guy is not getting away from any Ace here IMO although he could surprise me. Decided to call & let him barrel wthe river ith whatever he has

Worse river card in the deck hits & he pretty quickly shoves. 1 of those moments I was torn between snap folding & snap calling. I tank folded

Thoughts?

call the 3b pre this deep
raise turn is probably best since he probably wont fold Ax but calling cant be bad if hes a spew monkey
snap fold river

this basically means "I 4 bet to avoid tougher decisions postflop" which isnt a valid reason to 4b and you should get rid of this kind of thinking

Can see that's how I made it sound like that but calling QJo doesn't work out well it seems against aggressive opponents that are at least semi competent

He's gunna dominate me a ton & ironically will fold some of those hands to a 4bet. He'll cbet when I/we both miss & could even be reluctant to release Ace high if no high cards are showing so I cant just push him off the flop

I block AQ/KQ/QQ/JJ type hands too which are the type of hands he will likely call me with

don't see any valid reason to flat the 3bet
4bet is meh, better hands to do it with
call turn
fold river

QJs = easy call, QJo could be a fold imo. if we want to play aggressive post, QJo isnt doing well.

basic reading of villains range: premium + merged range, like KJo ATo type hands. versus this range id be more inclined to play 87o (if i had to choose) and fold QJo because that hand is at least not dominated.

what do you think?

^ lol how much of a diff do u think QJo n QJs makes preflop?

It's not about the difference in equity pre flop, it's about how playable the hand is post flop.

OP, if you're worried that villain is overly aggro post flop then folding pre is best thing you can do here. Apart from pre, the hand is WP.

You don't bet Ax otf?

like sifiasco said, its not about these 3% but about playability. flopping 3/2/1 of your suit makes the hand alot better to play post

I completely agree.

Perhaps I'm a Nitty McNitterson but, just don't get yourself into this spot with QJo in the first place...

4bet is kinda iffy, but better than flatting

rest seems well played

Try not to use the chat to vent nowadays but I spouted something after this hand about how predictable / ridiculous the river card was, regardless of whether the guy had it.

He said he had 55

No idea if that's true but its possible. He's capable of stabbing on the turn & then maybe saw his chance on the river, knowing very little can now call. He since turned Ah into a bluff on an Axx board when the hearts flush got there but I snapped him off, so he knows about relative hand strength & can turn a showdown hand into a bluff

Trouble is in these situations, I start getting impure thoughts about getting 2:1 on a call even though he's just shoved in 100bb .

Against most villains this is just always a fold, & even against this guy I think he plays loads of hands with a King in them this way.