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Push on ace high draw flop a bt deep stack Push on ace high draw flop a bt deep stack

01-05-2008 , 09:15 AM
No stats on villain, and I think I have no other chice here and I am quite happy wth my push considering fold equity as well... How do yu guys feel?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (4 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

BB ($3.05)
UTG ($13.90)
Hero ($19.10)
SB ($2.25)

Preflop: Hero is Button with , .
UTG raises to $0.4, Hero raises to $1.2, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.80.

Flop: ($2.55) , , (2 players)
UTG bets $1.7, Hero raises to $17.9, UTG calls $11 (All-In).

Turn: ($27.95) (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($27.95) (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $27.95
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01-05-2008 , 09:17 AM
I think this is a fairly abc push if anyone has comments please dont be shy, thank you for input
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01-05-2008 , 09:20 AM
fold PF . don't 3bet an UTG unknown with A5s
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01-05-2008 , 09:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by need_more_money
I think this is a fairly abc push if anyone has comments please dont be shy, thank you for input
Do you push overpairs and tptk here?

Btw, I don't like the 3bet preflop vs an unknown UTG raiser. The only thing we know is that he raises UTG, that might be an indication that he has at least some idea what he is doing --> tight range UTG --> don't 3bet A5s vs unknown UTG raiser.
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01-05-2008 , 09:25 AM
why do u rr pf? is this because u have a read on villian? its a definet fold/call otherwise... the otherthing is u r in position so maby a call would be better!
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01-05-2008 , 09:32 AM
I also don't the pf 3-bet and I don't really like the flop push either. He's an unknown and you're a dog vs this, imo, generous calling range:


Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

64,350 games 0.005 secs 12,870,000 games/sec

Board: 7c 9d Qd
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 40.269% 40.27% 00.00% 25913 0.00 { Ad5d }
Hand 1: 59.731% 59.73% 00.00% 38437 0.00 { QQ+, 99, 77, AcQc, AhQh, AsQs, KcQc, KhQh, KsQs, QTs+, 97s, AQo, KQo, QTo+ }
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01-05-2008 , 09:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelin1
I also don't the pf 3-bet and I don't really like the flop push either. He's an unknown and you're a dog vs this, imo, generous calling range:


Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

64,350 games 0.005 secs 12,870,000 games/sec

Board: 7c 9d Qd
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 40.269% 40.27% 00.00% 25913 0.00 { Ad5d }
Hand 1: 59.731% 59.73% 00.00% 38437 0.00 { QQ+, 99, 77, AcQc, AhQh, AsQs, KcQc, KhQh, KsQs, QTs+, 97s, AQo, KQo, QTo+ }
With money already in pot + fold equity I think it's just above even.

Hate preflop 3bet tho.

I'd like to know what hero would've done if the A hit the flop with no diamon draw.
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01-05-2008 , 09:44 AM
check, if checked to, and call if bet into, re-evaluate turn. If i check the the checked flop, then checked to again on turn, i am betting out. Probably. I also think it's about break-even, after consideration, but I don't think its -EV.
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01-05-2008 , 09:48 AM
Don't like too much this hand, call if you want to play this hand in position as others have already explained.

As played I don't like your push, as you are called just by hands that are in front of you on the flop. A 3bet to something like 5.2 does look better to me, I think you achieve the same goal enough times without putting your whole stack in the pot to make it a better move than a push. However the fact that he has bet into you, preflop reraiser, makes me think that you don't have much folding equity, does anyone think that a call here is horrible and we won't gain enough to make this play profitable? We have to put just 1.7 into a 2.55 pot.
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