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PS NL25,villain's weired C/raise and allin,shall I call? PS NL25,villain's weired C/raise and allin,shall I call?

08-30-2017 , 12:57 PM
PokerStars Hand #174765910065: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25 USD) - 2017/08/25 4:43:27 ET
Table 'Gyas' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: r4mz3s ($25.45 in chips)
Seat 2: Plusbellelavie ($20.32 in chips)
Seat 3: MaxikDDD ($31.16 in chips)
Seat 4: Davey Rice ($25 in chips)
Seat 5: Rutinsson ($11.69 in chips)
Seat 6: humwuble ($25 in chips)
r4mz3s: posts small blind $0.10
Plusbellelavie: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to humwuble [Qd Kd]
MaxikDDD: raises $0.50 to $0.75
Davey Rice: folds
Rutinsson: folds
humwuble: calls $0.75
r4mz3s: folds
Plusbellelavie: calls $0.50
*** FLOP *** [4d Jh Kc]
Plusbellelavie: checks
MaxikDDD: bets $1.68
humwuble: calls $1.68
Plusbellelavie: folds
*** TURN *** [4d Jh Kc] [5s]
MaxikDDD: checks
humwuble: bets $3.16
MaxikDDD: raises $3.88 to $7.04
humwuble: calls $3.88
*** RIVER *** [4d Jh Kc 5s] [8h]
MaxikDDD: bets $21.69 and is all-in


I assume that the villain(43,19/12/0.8/0) is UTG, His range should be like AQ+, 66+, and some suited connectors such as 67+.
His C-bet is ok, I called with top pair second kicker. The weired thing is the turn's C/minraise, and after i called it, He shoved in the river for effectively more than 15 dollars in a 19.79 pot!
What does he may have? Shall I call?
Here is what I think: In his range, as he opened OTG, He may have AQ+, 66+,67s+, so in this board, I beat the bluffs like AQ,QT,TJ, and I lose to AA,KK,JJ,AK. Split with KQ. I am confused by his turn C/minR and river Allin, it looks like a Bluff to me!
It's my first time to post a thread here, not very good at English and sth else,
Sorry for that! Many thanks to any thoughts!!
PS NL25,villain's weired C/raise and allin,shall I call? Quote
08-30-2017 , 02:59 PM
My friend... Fold...

I will give you a piece of golden advice, this will massively improve your game, but you are probably not going to hate both the advice and me...


To understand what the villain is doing with his range, we need consider how the game looks through his eyes. This villain has just seen us call, then call, then bet, then call. It looks like we hold some kind of King or better. So why would he bluff us??? He wouldn't. (Most probably, but there is always a time for anything.)

You need to read your perceived range before you can consider what the villain is doing with his range.

Edit - Is that his aggression at 0.8? This is a very low number. He will probably only ever raise with a set (when he beats all our hands). What did he have? JJ? If he is in fact bluffing, write a note and call all his future minraises.

Last edited by Yadoula8; 08-30-2017 at 03:24 PM.
PS NL25,villain's weired C/raise and allin,shall I call? Quote
08-30-2017 , 03:32 PM
I agree with Yadoula8. Just fold.
PS NL25,villain's weired C/raise and allin,shall I call? Quote
08-30-2017 , 03:59 PM
    Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37820262

    SB: $25.45 (101.8 bb)
    BB: $20.32 (81.3 bb)
    UTG: $31.16 (124.6 bb)
    MP: $25 (100 bb)
    CO: $11.69 (46.8 bb)
    Hero (BTN): $25 (100 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q K
    UTG raises to $0.75, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.75, SB folds, BB calls $0.50

    Flop: ($2.35) 4 J K (3 players)
    BB checks, UTG bets $1.68, Hero calls $1.68, BB folds

    Turn: ($5.71) 5 (2 players)
    UTG checks, Hero bets $3.16, UTG raises to $7.04, Hero calls $3.88

    River: ($19.79) 8 (2 players)
    UTG bets $21.69 and is all-in




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    Last edited by tomj; 08-30-2017 at 04:01 PM. Reason: convert hand
    PS NL25,villain's weired C/raise and allin,shall I call? Quote
    08-30-2017 , 05:50 PM
    b/f turn

    ap otr, fold
    PS NL25,villain's weired C/raise and allin,shall I call? Quote
    08-30-2017 , 11:12 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Yadoula8
    My friend... Fold...

    I will give you a piece of golden advice, this will massively improve your game, but you are probably not going to hate both the advice and me...


    To understand what the villain is doing with his range, we need consider how the game looks through his eyes. This villain has just seen us call, then call, then bet, then call. It looks like we hold some kind of King or better. So why would he bluff us??? He wouldn't. (Most probably, but there is always a time for anything.)

    You need to read your perceived range before you can consider what the villain is doing with his range.

    Edit - Is that his aggression at 0.8? This is a very low number. He will probably only ever raise with a set (when he beats all our hands). What did he have? JJ? If he is in fact bluffing, write a note and call all his future minraises.
    Thank you so much Yadoula8! I understand! I folded on the river. I am thinking that I should not bet on the turn, or bet/fold on the turn, it's wrong to call the turn minraise. And the villain looks likes a very tight player, very good image. So bluff frequency is low i think.
    PS NL25,villain's weired C/raise and allin,shall I call? Quote
    08-30-2017 , 11:16 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tomj
      Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37820262

      SB: $25.45 (101.8 bb)
      BB: $20.32 (81.3 bb)
      UTG: $31.16 (124.6 bb)
      MP: $25 (100 bb)
      CO: $11.69 (46.8 bb)
      Hero (BTN): $25 (100 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q K
      UTG raises to $0.75, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.75, SB folds, BB calls $0.50

      Flop: ($2.35) 4 J K (3 players)
      BB checks, UTG bets $1.68, Hero calls $1.68, BB folds

      Turn: ($5.71) 5 (2 players)
      UTG checks, Hero bets $3.16, UTG raises to $7.04, Hero calls $3.88

      River: ($19.79) 8 (2 players)
      UTG bets $21.69 and is all-in




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      Thank you tomj for converting the hand for me. I still havnt figured out how.
      PS NL25,villain's weired C/raise and allin,shall I call? Quote
      08-30-2017 , 11:23 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by Mr.Red
      I agree with Yadoula8. Just fold.
      Yeah, I folded actually.
      PS NL25,villain's weired C/raise and allin,shall I call? Quote
      08-31-2017 , 02:53 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by augustwu
      Thank you tomj for converting the hand for me. I still havnt figured out how.
      Copy the raw hand history, paste into the hand history converter tool within post reply box (and choose don't post results)
      PS NL25,villain's weired C/raise and allin,shall I call? Quote
      08-31-2017 , 04:35 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by tomj
      Copy the raw hand history, paste into the hand history converter tool within post reply box (and choose don't post results)
      Got it! TY, man!
      PS NL25,villain's weired C/raise and allin,shall I call? Quote

            
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