On the river im quite sure im beat, but with his small river bet am i priced to call? just in case? or should i save my $

He is a whale playing 69/4 on a few hands


No Limit Hold'em $0.02/$0.05
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5 players
Formatted by pokercopilot.com - Mac OS X hand history analysis and tracking

Stacks:
UTG - Hero ($11.48)
CO - CO ($3.86)
BTN - BTN ($5.13)
SB - SB ($8.07)
BB - BB ($5.98)

Preflop: ($0.07, 5 players) Hero is UTG with J J
Hero raises to $0.15, CO calls $0.15, 3 folds

Flop: J 4 A ($0.37, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.23, CO calls $0.23

Turn: 4 ($0.83, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.15, Hero raises to $0.70, CO calls $0.55

River: A ($2.23, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.55

More on flop, checking the turn is horrible vs this guy; bomb it.

bet turn
c/f river

well of course with the end result seems better to bet the turn, but in the turn im thinking how to extract the most from this fish since i have the nuts, so i check to let him draw on a flush, straight or middle pair (to a lower fh) wich is more on his range than the 3 aces left. When he bets the turn i realize that he had an A because normally fishes take a free card with draws so i raised so i can put him all in on the river. Do you really think its that bad checking the turn?

Bomb the turn, he is loose/passive - He is a "calling station" - value bet, value bet, value bet!

Why did you "give him a free card" to draw to his flushes/ straights or what ever (He is calling with almost about 99.9% of his flop calling range btw - he is loose/passive after all) when you can charge him to draw and set up the river shove.

This way you extract value when he misses (folding the river - he wont be bluffing or calling your bet if he checks back) and get stacks in easily when he hits...

Not to mention all the other hands you get value from such as 4x, Ax (Villian this loose has a sh*t load of Ax (He prolly played ANY ace -x hand - which for the record, makes a huge portion of his range that you risk him playing super passivly by checking the turn - as he will do a fair bit of the time) and pp which your unlikely to extract maximum value unless you set up the shove by betting (EG, he just flats with Ax on a blank river when you bet 70c - he would have called this size OTT and also the $2 shove OTR - see how much value you miss out? Vs these whales your printing cash, but you cant slow play UNLESS your whale is the massivly over aggro type - which this guy isnt... not even slightly.)

Checking the turn, as llama said above, is horrible vs this guy.

Checking to induce a bluff/value bet is a bad idea vs these calling stations - just value bet them for three streets and hard.

If you had done the above, ch/f the river would be standard. As played, I may look him up and hope the fish has a 4x type hand and has overvalued it. But eitherway I dont like it.

This is really bad thinking because he's loose passive.

He probably isn't going to fold a flush draw if you bet the turn anyway.

When you check the turn, the pot is smaller if he hits his flush and we might make less money.

You miss huge value from all of his non-flush draw hands if he checks them behind.

Because he's loose passive and bad at bet-sizing, you don't actually get any more money in when you check/raise than if you'd just led out for close to pot. I also think if he's going to fold a flush draw that he's more likely to fold to a big check/raise (say he'd bet 50c and you'd c/r big) than to a standard turn c-bet.

Don't give them a chance to check. Don't risk missing value against a player who just isn't going to get aggressive.

Against some really aggro players it can be good to just check and let them go mental when you have the nuts, but even then betting and letting them reason is usually better.

checking turn is ******ed since a fish will never fold any draw

Soo right
+1

Allright i get it, fish wont fold to a bet any draws even with the pair board, THANKS for your insight.

Bet turn
Or at least raise bigger

Bet turn. c/f riv....