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01-11-2010 , 05:14 PM
Hi everyone, i would like to understand some concepts about preflop betsizing and therefore hear as many points of view as possible about it. I didn't have many answers in the theory forum yet, so i'm asking here because there are plenty of competent people.

Let's assume we are in a 6 max game. A lot of people including myself raise bigger from EP than from LP. Something like 3.5x UTG, 3x MP and CO, 2.5x BTN. If i'm getting this right, it's because we want to:

-Play bigger pots with our value hands from EP because we are dominating their calling range
-Narrow the field of players with a big raise from EP (not really necessary in sh games, but whatever)
-Play with a lower SPR from EP

-Bet less from LP because we play a wider range of hands
-Steal the blinds for cheap with a better risk/reward from LP
-Get away cheaply from 3bets when we are say the BTN
-Play the pot IP with a high SPR

If you have more good reasons please say it.

However, there is something i don't understand.
We clearly know that the more we go left by positions, the more it becomes profitable to play, the BTN being the position showing the best profit.
So, taking this into consideration, don't we want to :

-Bet smaller from EP because we play oop and are often going to b/f or c/f the flop ?
-Induce more 3bets from LP or the blinds so we can often happily 4bet get it in w/ a good % of our opening range ?

-Bet bigger from LP because we often are gonna take down the pot postflop, mostly on the flop, sometimes on the turn, so we want to charge them for entering the pot ? Aren't we happy inflating the size of the pot being IP, make them pay more for seeing the flop and seeing the turn ? We can still pot control if we want to because we are IP.
-Keep them more honest with you. Sure a 4.5x raise from BTN means a lot of dead money in the pot, but i think the blinds are probably not become 3bet happy, being forced to raise 16x w/ junk oop.
-Play bigger pots when we can play properly against their range being IP. We are always said the BTN is so good, that people don't use its advantages enough. Why playing bigger pots when we can play optimally is a bad thing ?


Isn't playing big pots in position better than playing big pots out of position with a better starting range ? I'm just wondering, i'm ofc trolling a bit, but that's because i want to understand this, it seems to me that raising bigger from LP and smaller from EP is better than the contrary.
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