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03-10-2015 , 01:51 PM
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
BTN: 119.75 BB (VPIP: 44.00, PFR: 16.00, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 26)
SB: 180.75 BB (VPIP: 53.85, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 26)
BB: 124 BB (VPIP: 26.19, PFR: 19.05, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 44)
Hero (UTG): 105 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T T

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 2.5 BB, fold

Flop: (7 BB, 2 players) 4 A J
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (7 BB, 2 players) 7
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (7 BB, 2 players) 6
SB bets 12 BB, Hero calls 12 BB

Should I have bet on the flop? my reasoning was that with such a board I get rarely called by a worse hand. On the river I interpret villains overbet as a bluff. He is trying to rep an ace or a jack.
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03-10-2015 , 02:01 PM
That flop hits your utg range, you may get floated or cbet into draws but can also take it down with a cbet
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03-10-2015 , 02:17 PM
I really didnt consider that. Thanks!
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03-10-2015 , 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by cruisecontrol204
That flop hits your utg range, you may get floated or cbet into draws but can also take it down with a cbet
Completely right. Most of the time you'll take the pot down right away. SOMETIMES the villain will call or reraise you and you can back off. You'll see profit from this as you'll take down the pot a lot more than you will get called or lose the pot.

Make sure to pay attention to the kind of player though. Some players will notice you CBetting a lot and will start to fight back if they think you CBet everything. You'll have to re-evaluate based on the villain.
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03-10-2015 , 08:31 PM
If you play reasonably tight then this flop hits your utg range hard enough that you could c-bet it nearly every time and not be making much of a mistake.

That said, we have so many hands better for bluffing than this. Everything that has better playability in terms of gutshots, flush (and backdoor) draws. And the hands like 8s9s that don't have that at least have no showdown value that they're wasting on a 0 equity bluff, where as TT at least gets to check down and win occasionally. Checking down being much more likely against some 50/15. He also never folds better on the flop and we won't particularly want to barrel off a bluff like this vs. him. It's not like this guy will realise how strong your range is and c/f QJ.

So even though you can possibly justify a bet, the only real reason left is to protect against him bluffing us on the turn.

I'd just check down like this and then fold to a river overbet but consider hero calling against a normal size.
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03-10-2015 , 09:30 PM
Feels like a way ahead/way behind situation on flop. I agree that cbet is good as you'll take it down most of the time. If u get called, u can just give up knowing u are likely behind. Checking it all the way down is ok too. Depends on villain really.

I wouldn't call sudden river overbet. Imo more of then not, he has it. If he is a crazy bluffer then u can wait for a better spot to catch him.

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03-10-2015 , 10:15 PM
Bladesman87's post sets it out.

However, on the turn, I probably bet against this villain when he checks to us again after we check back flop. He's pretty unlikely to have an ace at this point, but may very well have a draw that he's willing to call with - in addition to the heart draw, the 7 puts a decent number of straight draws that might call a bet (i.e., 65, 98, 86s, 53s, maybe even 85s), plus he's obviously calling any 7x, 4x or pocket pair at this point. We value cut ourselves a bit against a Jx, but I think a 50/15 is going to have a lot more combos of other calling hands on this board texture, so I think we can value bet the turn.
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