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Pocket Rockets 3bp - Raised OTR Pocket Rockets 3bp - Raised OTR

08-03-2019 , 05:42 PM
PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
Hero (SB): 117.5 BB
BB: 78 BB (VPIP: 23.53, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 17)
UTG: 115 BB (VPIP: 20.69, PFR: 20.69, 3Bet Preflop: 4.17, Hands: 61)
MP: 38.5 BB (VPIP: 25.93, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 28)
CO: 115.5 BB (VPIP: 21.48, PFR: 18.79, 3Bet Preflop: 12.64, Hands: 453)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A A

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.5 BB, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, CO calls 7.5 BB

Flop: (21 BB, 2 players) T 8 8
Hero bets 14 BB, CO calls 14 BB

Turn: (49 BB, 2 players) J
Hero checks, CO checks

River: (49 BB, 2 players) 6
Hero bets 12.5 BB, CO raises to 40 BB, Hero ???
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08-03-2019 , 06:16 PM
I don't like the flop bet without the Ad. And the sizing should be smaller. Turns fine. River I don't like the small sizing (think ~1/2 pot is better) because you never know if you induced in these situations which makes folding harder to do, even when it's likely the best option.
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08-03-2019 , 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by WorldzMine
I don't like the flop bet without the Ad. And the sizing should be smaller. Turns fine. River I don't like the small sizing (think ~1/2 pot is better) because you never know if you induced in these situations which makes folding harder to do, even when it's likely the best option.
What kind of hands could I have induced a bluff from?

OTR my intentions were to get value from some Tx hand, a jack? dont like the river play either tbh

Looking back I think this is a very easy fold OTR, beating literally nothing, no draws that brick that can be bluffing either..

whats wrong with the flop bet though? Getting value from AdX, JJ, Tx
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08-03-2019 , 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ramonnieflex
whats wrong with the flop bet though? Getting value from AdX, JJ, Tx
Flop's bad for your range and you are OOP.
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08-03-2019 , 11:19 PM
I also don't like the small river bet, unless you work hard to balance it you really coreograph the strength of your hand.
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08-04-2019 , 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by WorldzMine
I don't like the flop bet without the Ad. And the sizing should be smaller.
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Originally Posted by WorldzMine
Flop's bad for your range
None of this is correct.

Flop is a range bet for SB, and black aces prefers the bigger size, although the EV of both big and small is the same. Both players have the same # of combos of the nuts, but we have all the overpairs CO mostly doesn't. We also have 20 fewer combos of no made hand.

Jd is one of the worst turn cards for us, so we should be checking range. CO should be betting often on that card.

River is a neutral card, which slightly favors our range. Black aces should size up, likely because there is a lot of Jx and Tx which CO has to call with and like @Worldzmine said we don't want to induce with this combo.

When we bet and get raised, aces with no diamond always folds.
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08-04-2019 , 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by simplelessons
None of this is correct.
Proof?
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08-04-2019 , 04:54 PM
Hmmm, strange hand.

It kind of feels like the turn action polarizes his river raising range somewhat. I would expect him to bet most flushes/8x very often on the turn. Maybe he checks sometimes with the nut flush. Given this I imagine his river range is basically restricted to boats, whether villain is aware of this who knows. Think river can size up a bit but pretty much always fold to the raise unless villain is super aggro. The reason why I brought up nature of villain value range on the river being boat heavy is if he is unaware of this he may be overbluffing with some of his broadways versus your smaller sizing (he may be repping flushes he will rarely have based on the turn action). Something fairly minor but versus an aggro opponent it's worth thinking about.

Underbluffed spot though and with this specific combo you get to fold pretty comfortably. Think you played the hand pretty well overall.
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08-04-2019 , 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by WorldzMine
Proof?
Just solve the hand
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08-05-2019 , 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by WorldzMine
I don't like the flop bet without the Ad. And the sizing should be smaller. Turns fine. River I don't like the small sizing (think ~1/2 pot is better) because you never know if you induced in these situations which makes folding harder to do, even when it's likely the best option.
Agreed
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