Note: Not quite sure this is the correct section to post this in. Didn't want to post it in BBV/NVG for it to get covered w/ trolling.

My question; cash games on PKR seem ridiculously fishy w/ little/no regs. Is this correct? Seems like a good place to make some serious money if you play 50/1 etc on there. Opinions?

Depends how many tables you can play. If it's like 2 or 4 and you're capable of breaking even at Stars on 18+, I'm probably going for FPP proing Stars instead.

PKR
5 bb/100 @ 100NL x 2 tables x maybe 40 hands/hour/table with all the ridiculous antics = $4/hour winnings

Stars
0 bb/100 @ 100NL x 18 tables x 60 hands/hour/table + 0.25 VPP/hand x 3.5 multiplier x $0.016/FPP = $15.12 in bonus cash / hour.

Pkr?

5bb/100 is understating a good players WR at PKR id say it was more like 5/6 BB/100 for a player that wins at 2BB/100 at somewhere like stars, maybe alot more. I think your WR there can be more in line with live play

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12 bb/100 x 2 tables x 40 hands/hour/table = $9.60/hour on PKR + whatever VIP points they have

(4 bb/100 x 18 tables x 60 hands/hour/table) + (0.25 VPP/hand x 2.5 Platinum x $0.015/FPP) = $43.20 winnings + $10.12 bonus = $53.32/hour on Stars

The problem is the number of tables you can play making a massive difference. If you're only going to play 2-4 tables, then PKR is obv better. It really starts diverging already past that point for someone capable of beating 100NL on Stars for 2 BB/100 when it's basically $3/hour per table. Someone that's not even Supernova and breaking even on Stars at 100NL playing 18 tables is already better off due to bonus money than someone beating PKR for 6 BB/100 on 2 tables.

Interesting.

Is PKR HEM compatible ? Is it really only 40 hands an hour ? That's pretty slow.

No it's not as far as I'm aware.

However, and it's a big however, the standard of play really does not require a HUD. If you just rail 1/2 tables of $0.50/1 on there, you'll be pretty shocked with the standard. Pretty much every hand is a limped pot. Each table, from what I've seen, has maximum 1 'regular' - 'regular' in the PKR sense which is still pretty recreational. I think the standard of cash games on PKR is similar to the general standard of poker 5/6 years ago.

I can comfortably play 6 tables here but I prefer 4 HEM works but the HUD doesnt when Multi tabling, I open the active player window on HEM which then is like a HUD for (this window is gold anyway no matter what site you use)

The standard thouhg is really really soft, it playes like live poker. Ibe only just goneback there to clear a bonus and im also playing on Party and Ipoker. My FR at Ipoker for the last 50k hands is around 6BB/100 at Nl50 and from what ive seen so far at PKR im pretty sure I can get 10BB/100 over 50k or more hands at NL50/100

Yeah, agreed, I made the same comparison to a friend.

Would you say PKR is the softest for 100nl or?

Thanks for the info. I live in France so can only play on pkr.fr

Advantages: even fishier

but

Disadvantages: Rake + tax = 7.5 % and there's not enough players from what I've heard.

I would say so, Boss media was pretty soft too but no like PKR

PKR software is so sluggish. Awful.

Am I the only one who thinks Ipoker FR is just terrible? It's 10 handed, and all the % of players to the flop is under 12%...and the software is the worst I've ever played on.

I didnt like at first but it is pretty soft. software if pretty bad though.

I wouldnt pay attention to the % to flop in the lobby, they all look they are 12 or under but usually they play much looser

FYI: PKR allows up to 9 tables (so a little unsure as to why some poster(s) here are alluding to it capping at 2-4 tables).

Also - there is now a 2D version - in terms of layout etc, the limitations are identical (don't expect table-stacking any time soon) however, it is obviously very easy on the PC now.

I play PKR primarily and I find 9-tabling nl100 is not a problem on a 24" screen. Also regarding the "cards down" feature - as long as you play nl50+ you can join cards down or up tables.

Regarding how "soft" PKR is; I've played on plenty of sites, there are certainly some softer than PKR. However, generally speaking the level at PKR is below that of the larger rooms, for obvious reasons. However in saying that - if you're a losing player elsewhere, you'll in all likely hood still be a losing player. If you think there's no 'regs' at PKR or no one else who has ever thought to themselves "I hear PKR is fishy/soft - surely if I became a grinder there I could make a killing!" then you're an idiot/delusional. There are plenty of regs at PKR nl50+ and plenty of winning players.

If you want to win at PKR, just like everywhere else, you'll still need to be good at poker. The boom is long over and even the soft rooms aren't soft by old-school standards.

That said, I think it is a great room and certainly has the potential to be a nice earner for small stakes players.

Mid-high stakes player will be extremely disappointed with the traffic; either they literally won't have the stakes that you play or there'll only be 1-2 tables running. Most of the "high stakes" PKR regs spread themselves across nl200-nl2000 tables as per what is available.

Really good summary, informative, thanks for that.

Im not sure if thats the right place to ask for it but is there anyone from Italy playing on PKR? if so how can you do it? same rule applies for french ppl. can you play on normal "international" software? if so how to do that here? its being blocked by some webpage that says its illegal rarara... thanks for help!

Does this pkr poker accept us players?

no idea - and cant check it cause website blocks any iformation about poker unless its from italian source. i heard that u can play somehow but not sure how to do it and cannot find it anywhere... so was hoping to find some answers here

Play money only. PKR has actually never accepted real money USA players.. Which was great when black friday happened as it was/is a VERY safe room to have your $$ on because there was zero risk of DoJ action towards PKR (not sure on PKRs use of payment processors though that may have been affect during black friday).

Unfortunately their strict attitude towards licensing regulation comes at two costs:

A) French, USA, etc are not allowed as real money players and will not be unless explicit government permission is granted - they target a fairly niche market and they don't seem at all interested in tackling political issues regarding online gaming.
B) There is ZERO allowance for player2player transfers - as a measure against money-laundering and strict adherence to their license. This also translates to a very harsh policy for anyone found chip-dumping.