PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
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CO: 117.9 BB (VPIP: 18.91, PFR: 16.03, 3Bet Preflop: 4.62, Hands: 318)
BTN: 44 BB (VPIP: 41.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 39)
SB: 127.9 BB (VPIP: 28.95, PFR: 23.68, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 41)
Hero (BB): 111.2 BB
UTG: 92 BB (VPIP: 34.62, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 53)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A A

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, fold, SB raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 10 BB, UTG calls 9 BB, SB calls 7 BB

Flop: (30 BB, 3 players) 7 K J
SB bets 19 BB, Hero calls 19 BB, fold

Turn: (68 BB, 2 players) 8
SB bets 42 BB, [color=red]Hero ??

We can discard KK from the hands that beat us because that 4B pre. So we are behind 77,JJ and KJ. But why would he donk bet with those hands in a pretty dry board? To get value from the fish maybe? What about the flop? Does someone think that raising is better' Now what?

You can consider flatting pre-flop to keep the money dispenser in the pot.

I doubt KQ bets so big OTT, he has to be scared of you having AK/KJ. I think folding turn is fine. He's going to have KJ a lot.

I think that people tend to do these donk bets with TPWK(in micro stakes), but here the size is pretty big. So, in some situations you have a fish against you that think that his hand is really good and tries to get balue(pretty rare) and he has no idea about your hand range. Judging by the size tho, if he is not a fish, most of the times he has 2 pair or set. I agree that folding the turn is fine..

Lol what am I hearing? Ship the turn.

3 combos JJ, 3 combos 77. I'm ruling out KK because of no 4bet pre.

6 combos of AK which we have crushed so that's a wash with the sets.

9 combos of KJ, and if he flats with KJ OOP then he definitely does so with KQ. Give him half the combos of KQ as well and that's 6 more combos we beat.

So basically a coinflip and we need to call this off.

Just because he flats KJ OOP, doesn't mean he's getting aggro with KQ post. I imagine lots of 10nl players are weak enough to flat KJ here OOP, but won't just barrel KQ like this.
What it comes down to is if he bets AK like this.

36% vs JJ,77,AKs,KJs,AKo,KJo

Yes he might not get aggro with KQ post but then again he might not flat KJ OOP to start with. Certainly I'd say KJo is unlikely as from a small sample he doesn't look like a fish. If you cut out the offsuit combos and there's even the slightest chance he does this with KQ it's a call.

I wouldn't read too much into the bet sizing either, probably he's betting 2/3rds pot because that's his standard value bet size not because he necessarily has a monster.

Imo it's close. I don't think it matters too much which way you go.

Well I shoved and he called with KJs of spades, but even I won with a river 7 I wasn't really happy about it.

I play a lot of 10NL and the majority of bad regs will be donking strong hands. The fish donk much wider. I don't agree with the statement that R/C KJ in BvB is weak. Yoshi will you explain why you say it is?

Because calling a 3 bet OOP with KJo is not profitable generally. If you don't want to fold, then 4 betting and using king and jack as blockers is better.

KJ is dominated vs value 3 betting range.