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Overpair on paired board facing donk bet 3 way. 16NL Overpair on paired board facing donk bet 3 way. 16NL

12-06-2012 , 09:31 PM
PokerStars - $0.16 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

MP: $16.93
CO: $11.61
BTN: $12.20
SB: $16.00
BB: $7.65
Hero (UTG): $16.00

SB posts SB $0.08, BB posts BB $0.16

Pre Flop: ($0.24) Hero has J J

Hero raises to $0.48, MP calls $0.48, fold, fold, SB calls $0.40, fold

Flop: ($1.60, 3 players) T T 8
SB bets $1.00, Hero calls $1.00, fold

Turn: ($3.60, 2 players) 8
SB bets $2.00, Hero??

Villain is 18/16 over 83 hands, so with those stats at least he doesn't seem a fish, but I don't know aything else. He donk bet in a 3 way and I call because I thought that if I raise I would fold everything I'm beating. Now another 8 comes and he bets again. I don't think he has many 8 in his range with those stats but this seems a lot like a 10, a bluff seems a bit unlikely and QQ+ probably would have 3B pre. Should I have raised the flop or was it ok to call? Now I have to fold or could I call again?
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12-06-2012 , 11:08 PM
Guess if it wasnt for the 8 and he bet I would have called. Since the 8 is more or less a blank I d call the turn and see what he does OTR. I have no idea what he plays like that I dont think he would donk Ts. Tbh he might have 99 here or pairs that got counterfeited.
I think its really close between fold and call, fold is def not a mistake here.
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12-06-2012 , 11:51 PM
If MP is a fish this is probably a fold
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12-07-2012 , 12:38 AM
Some books says to donk multiway pots with second , third pair and all kind of small draw. Authors explain that it's more easy to bet-fold than c/c. Look Phil Ivey, he do this a lot.

You are maybe against this kind of move.
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12-07-2012 , 01:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shetu
Some books says to donk multiway pots with second , third pair and all kind of small draw. Authors explain that it's more easy to bet-fold than c/c. Look Phil Ivey, he do this a lot.

You are maybe against this kind of move.
what the ****

anyway, folding turn readless
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12-07-2012 , 04:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shetu
Some books says to donk multiway pots with second , third pair and all kind of small draw. Authors explain that it's more easy to bet-fold than c/c. Look Phil Ivey, he do this a lot.

You are maybe against this kind of move.
Fish must love these books lol
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12-07-2012 , 12:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kidacao
If MP is a fish this is probably a fold
MP 37/0 over 46 hands, so....
We all agree that raising flop is bad then?
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12-07-2012 , 12:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by leproso88
MP 37/0 over 46 hands, so....
We all agree that raising flop is bad then?
Yeah, don't raise flop. Fold turn.
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12-07-2012 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ved
Fish must love these books lol
Look.. I made a little inventory of this donking multi-way (MW) line with middle. low pair or small draw.

Bobbo Fittos book. (P.73) He recommends to donk with a underbet in a limp MW pot with your small draw.

Poker Blueprint (P.78) He recommends to donk-fold second and 3rd pair in single raised pot.

Esay Game III (P.97). "I recommend leading with a wide range of value hands into a bad player in multiway pots (the reasons for this being quickly identified as both getting value and preventing the board from being checked through in a spot where the preflop raiser is less likely to bluff given the presence of the
fish)."
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12-07-2012 , 02:55 PM
I didn't call so I don't know his hand, but most agree that I did the right move.
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