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Overly agressive random preflop vs AKs Overly agressive random preflop vs AKs

10-15-2014 , 01:47 PM
Can we call here? UTG is complete random. I really could not believe someone woul risk to lose all the hands value pushing 200BB to relatively small 3bet.



    Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05, $0.01 ante No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #31651511

    CO: $12.66 (253.2 bb)
    Hero (BTN): $21.70 (434 bb)
    SB: $12.81 (256.2 bb)
    BB: $12.35 (247 bb)
    UTG: $10.71 (214.2 bb)
    MP: $11.92 (238.4 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with A K
    UTG raises to $0.15, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, SB calls $0.38, BB folds, UTG raises to $10.70 and is all-in, Hero raises to $21.69 and is all-in, SB folds

    Flop: ($21.91) 6 Q J (2 players, 2 are all-in)
    Turn: ($21.91) 5 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
    River: ($21.91) 9 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: $21.91 pot ($0.91 rake)
    Final Board: 6 Q J 5 9
    Hero showed A K and won $0.00 (-$10.71 net)
    UTG showed A A and won $21 ($10.29 net)



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    Overly agressive random preflop vs AKs Quote
    10-15-2014 , 02:00 PM
    fold to the 4 overbet AI with SB to act and no real side pot if SB calls. AKs is behind all pairs and given action before you (SB cold flatting 3bet, UTG shoving) plus no reads, you gotta figure you're likely facing one if not two pairs - which you are a dog too...its unlikey you're facing AQ/AJ/KQ. If you knew SB was going AI then you'd have easy odds to call since if you were vs. two hands of KK- you'd still have ~40% equity (even AA- still ~36%); but vs. 1 hand of AA- and the preflop action you're only 45% equity and probably behind although you're very close pot odds wise (~45% to win vs. pot odds of just under 50%).

    If you were the one shoving i'd be ok with that. but calling off in this situation seems to be slightly -ev.
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    10-15-2014 , 02:10 PM
    Snap fold to the 4b. You're facing a 200bb deep shove vs an UTG's 4bet, easy fold.
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    10-16-2014 , 08:09 PM
    He had aces, so you should have folded.

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    10-16-2014 , 08:29 PM
    LOL @ calling this off vs. an unknown OP, terrible call. Also LOL @ reading this as a non-value shove, so long as there are people who will call 4bet shoves 200bb deep, then it is a value play, no?
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    10-16-2014 , 10:22 PM
    I would even consider folding KK in this spot vs some opponents, so that you're snapping it off with AK makes me cry a bit.
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    10-17-2014 , 03:01 AM
    3bet bigger preflop.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Shag&Brag
    UTG is complete random.
    What does "complete random" mean? Have you seen him open-shoving random hands?
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    10-17-2014 , 03:33 AM
    at NL2 and NL5 I only call AI with AA or KK (except villain is a total maniac)

    200 BB's deep you can even think about folding KK.

    AK and QQ are instafolds!
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