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04-05-2016 , 08:06 AM
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PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (UTG): 104.5 BB
CO: 100.6 BB (VPIP: 20.34, PFR: 16.38, 3Bet Preflop: 6.15, Hands: 181)
BTN: 159.2 BB (VPIP: 45.71, PFR: 31.43, 3Bet Preflop: 41.67, Hands: 36)
SB: 128.2 BB (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 27.27, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q T

Hero raises to 3.3 BB, fold, BTN raises to 5.6 BB, SB calls 5.1 BB, BB calls 4.6 BB, Hero calls 2.3 BB

Flop: (22.4 BB, 4 players) 9 7 8
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets 11 BB, fold, BB calls 11 BB, Hero calls 11 BB

Turn: (55.4 BB, 3 players) J
BB checks,

emphasis on bet sizing.
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04-05-2016 , 08:16 AM
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Bet 30bb-35bb. That'll leave you about 60 bigs behind on river for a pot that'll be at least 110 bb.
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04-05-2016 , 08:19 AM
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75% potbet
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04-05-2016 , 08:23 AM
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Bet 30bb-35bb. That'll leave you about 60 bigs behind on river for a pot that'll be at least 110 bb.
What if heart peels off and we check to V who crams.
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04-05-2016 , 08:48 AM
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What if heart peels off and we check to V who crams.
You shove yourself to get paid from Tx and lose to hearts.

Rather than auto check because it's possible that you are beat and have him shove all flushes and some % of Tx which leaves you in a difficult spot deciding whether to call or not.
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04-05-2016 , 09:40 AM
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04-05-2016 , 10:15 AM
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You shove yourself to get paid from Tx and lose to hearts.

Rather than auto check because it's possible that you are beat and have him shove all flushes and some % of Tx which leaves you in a difficult spot deciding whether to call or not.
Then couldn't we just cram turn and get maximum from T's and eliminate hearts from the equation since betting and shoving when the heart completes is basically break even when facing hearts.
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04-05-2016 , 10:33 AM
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From his stats i might let BTN barrel turn
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04-05-2016 , 10:55 AM
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Then couldn't we just cram turn and get maximum from T's and eliminate hearts from the equation since betting and shoving when the heart completes is basically break even when facing hearts.
Because if you jam turn, you're jamming 90bb into a 50bb pot. you only get called by Tx, which you block some, whereas a reasonable turn bet might get called by a wider range that could include some diamond or heart FD or sets that might hope to boat up on river given pot odds of this being possibly 3 way.
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04-05-2016 , 11:48 AM
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Because if you jam turn, you're jamming 90bb into a 50bb pot. you only get called by Tx, which you block some, whereas a reasonable turn bet might get called by a wider range that could include some diamond or heart FD or sets that might hope to boat up on river given pot odds of this being possibly 3 way.
winner winner chicken dinner. thanks for the replies everyone!
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04-06-2016 , 07:21 PM
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From his stats i might let BTN barrel turn
I dont hate this but the 1/2 pot feels like a villian that is trying to win MW pot when everyone whiffs. Seems to me that bttn is the one that is going to get coolered. He got a good price and could have a lot of second bet hands here

I'm leading this myself for around 2/3 making it really easy for BB to stack off with straight, trips, two pair? on the riv plus charging for draws ect. i wouldnt be certain that bttn is going to do that for you
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