Thank you for that. Yea i grinded up from 25nl on bovada up to almost 5k and then the runbad started.

And you are right, i realize i do have a lot of leaks in my game so running bad took a bigger toll than it should've. Ive always been good about bankroll management, ive never gone bust in all my time playing, still not bust now technically, but its close enough that i consider myself busted.

But i got to a point where i just wanted to make serious money and decided i would be stuck at micros forever if i kept being so conservative with my bankroll.

I appreciate you sharing that youve been through it as well. The frustration of starting at the bottom again is hard to overcome when every big pot feels so much more important than usual and people try to give me their money and the poker gods wont allow it.

This also happened to me as well, I basically overestimated my abilities and was like a 1bb winner at 100nl for like 130k hands in 2022. Then I realized I just wasn't that good. Joined Metgame in June 2023 and got MDA coaching and now I am playing 200nl with a very good winrate.

I would invest in some form of coaching if I were you, specifically MDA coaching from someone reputable (make sure they show you the actual data) + good results.

It's not the bottom though. The whole point of my post is that this stuff is necessary for your progression as a poker player, don't think about it like all your work was just reset.

Thank you i appreciate it

It's never AA amirite

Haha, that reminds me of the "degen test". I can't remember who came up with it, but it goes as follows:

If you look at what hands your hole cards would be making at your other tables, you're a degen.



I definitely fail the degen test. When I have 44 at one table and there is a 4 on the flop at another, I always chant "Switch the boards!"

I dont understand what am i missing?

Edited nvm i get it. I have a superstition where i will always try to play a hand if i get it twice in a row

All the signs were there for me to defend my SB with 74o against this whale.

His stack in BBs. His PFR.

But alas some nerd had to 3bet him so I was forced to fold.

I feel like I mentioned this before, but I never like playing suited hands if it would have made a flush the previous hand lol

Yep. Pretty much confirms the games will never die.

Of course, it makes perfect logical sense, this is just good advice

Ugh i was at a table like this last night and my wife needed me to do something and i got timed out and booted off the table and then i ended up being at a regfest after that.

Wives, they just dont understand our hunt for moby dick. Why dont you support me!!!

So ive grinded 25nl last couple days and of course running amazing since dropping down haha. Seems to always happen like that. But i am playing better too. Finding some plays i wasnt before and scooping some extra pots. Had to get out of autopilot A B C poker mode.

Added a couple tables of 50nl and was fortunate to have a guy call my UTG 4bet w aces w TT on the button and then stack off on a low flop.

If i can maintain this mindset and working for extra pots like i have i will hopefully be back to 100nl soon and who knows maybe higher. When my downswing started i was just about ready to shot take 200

That's what we like to hear. Good Luck

Thanks man appreciate it

The GOAT dropped a play and explain. This guy is a complete legend

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4fDvNsZlr4

Jan 2024

Good
- Volume
- Running above EV
- Very minimal occurrences of spew/tilt.

Bad
- Played way too passively at 50nl

Study
- Started drilling SBvBTN-3bp and realized how bad I was, so that will be a bigger area of focus this month.

Love this format over the usual setup we see on play and explains. It's funny how the best players are definitely super sick but also just seem to play a fundamentally sound game on a consistent basis.

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I identify with this. Turned things around online, but also playing too passively at 50 compared to 25nl which i know is because my roll took such a huge hit. I realized im not being aggressive enough in those SB v BTN 3BPs, and on Bovada they overcall 3bets so I think some of the lower parts of the SB 3bet range should just be skipped vs most villains.

Also took a huge hit in live poker, which i overadjusted to and also played too passively, again due to being not rolled high enough. After going up over 3 buyins at 1/2 I decided to be very aggressive to build my roll and bought in for 500 at 2/3 which plays far bigger w straddles and huge opens. I had about a 800 stack and I made a massive 4bet w QQ and a maniac called w A3o and then called a 5 7 8 rainbow flop all in w just the A high and stuck an ace on the turn so i lost an absolutely massive pot and tilted off another 300 some. Played a couple times after that and just couldnt find the aggression in spots i shouldve plus not making hands so now im almost busto for my live roll.

I hate walking in and playing with less than 2 buyins. I only feel comfortable playing 1/2 with at least $600 in my pocket.

I was about to post the same thing. Yeah they find the bluffs and calls that most of us wont', but they never really force anything.

Thanks for posting. Ive never seen him before and im probably saying this is the best play and explain video ive ever seen. Really opened my eyes to some things that im not thinking about in real time

He's using some very high level MDA, not sure if people are noticing this but that turn XR with QTo hand is super over bluffed/over folded on mid/low pairing turns.

I didnt know that, but it makes sense. So people are overbluffing when the turn pairs one of the lower cards, but population is also overfolding. So which is the greater? The overbluff or the overfold?

Intuitively it makes sense to be overbluffed simply because if im thinking about my own play, this exact situation is one of the easiest bluffs i tend to find and execute.

It's harder to get accurate fold frequencies OTT because you can't use MDF formulas (you can see this in gto wizard by using their aggregated turn reports). Folding frequencies are much less because ranges still have implied odds with 1 card to come when compared to the river.

Not sure which one is greater, definitely on my list of things to study.

I finally caught one of those massive heaters I've heard about... only took about 1.5 million hands! My January: