Ah, ok. Thanks.

What do you mean by shadiest?

Pretty simple. Play ACR if you trying to improve and face tougher competition.

If you trying to make money, do not consider playing ACR when there’s so much better elsewhere.
Common sense tbh.

It's been going on for many years and you can do a forum search to get the gory details, but ACR has a history of doing an exceptionally horrible job of stopping botting and collusion.

Well I knew it was gonna be bad when I logged on and on my first hand flopped trip aces w AK and lost to a flopped boat.

After dropping another 6 stacks im officially forced to play 50nl again which i find difficult to take seriously. 5 mos of runbad including a 3 mo break has wiped out a full years worth of grinding.

Update: poker is so cruel. Drop down to 50nl and immediately start running amazing flopping top pair left and right in every 3bp, overpairs all hold up vs preflop jams. Amazing

It’s cruel but not as savage as Crypto. Forced to move down cause I needed powder and forced to take from poker roll. Really sucks.

Is it possible to convert GGPoker hands into any tracker? I tried with PT4, but everything is messed up.

Dude same man.

I'm beating 50nl for 10bb/100 on Party but every shot at 100nl has went poorly and I'm down slightly over 40k hands.

Though I think it's more me being bad than run bad

It's same for me. I made over 30k profit at 50nl, but every time I take a shot at 100nl I just get destroyed. I guess the skill gap between those stakes is just that big.

It's the same on Bovada. I think a lot of people think skill gaps between stakes that are next to each other are linear but it's not the case unfortunately for us.

A while back for me the jump from 100 to 50nl on GG was quite tough. Bear in mind I was only winning ~3bb at 50nl at the time but I thought I was a crusher, but couldn't beat 100. I must've played 200k hands jumping from 50/100nl on GG.

In the end what helped was I started playing 1/2 and 2/4 app games which were much softer and allowed me to build up my roll and confidence. I was playing a lot less volume and put in a lot more hours into study off the tables.

Not a good solution for everyone, but sometimes you get in the volume trap and miss out on improving.

I think this is the issue for most people, because everybody loves to play but nobody likes studying, and if you want to move up you usually have to take some time off from the tables which can be tough to do. And also what I find always tough is that sometimes I have to go back and change my ways of doing some stuff in certain spots, that I learned in the past, and this can be very hard too.

Yeh the skill gap seems larger than it used to be between 50nl and 100nl. I also think the problem is cause party doesn't get that much traffic that most of the 200nl guys also play 100nl, some even 500 I'd guess, and last time I played 200nl I could feel myself getting exploited and just outplayed a ton

This has been a problem for me. I tried to put in some off the table work to push me to beat 100nl using gto wizard but a lot of it is way different from my normal game and I've also always been a bit of a "feel" player so it really threw me off my game.

As someone who has been playing almost 20 years but am trying to now beat the tougher online games after being a casual 1/2 live player most of my life, I feel this.

I think that's one reason the game has always been somewhat youth dominated, is that guys who learned to play years ago have to deprogram their past play style to compete today.

Maybe the solver based stuff will never quite go obsolete the way older styles did, but I do wonder sometimes if this has been harder for me because I've had to break old habits to form new ones.

congrats on undergoing the online journey, it's certainly tough but can be extremely rewarding.

Any one strategy, paradigm, or analysis is never going to be futureproof, the only thing that's futureproof in poker is a consistent studying routine. It doesn't matter much how you study, be it solvers, courses/videos, personal coaching, database work, studying the top players, it's 100% the thing that will allow you to consistently move up stakes. A strategy that has worked yesterday has no guarantee of success today, that's the harsh truth of the matter, although it can be a point of optimism.

As for the last part, I do think that a lot of the rigor of solver based play will go away. Of course the basic heuristics and range construction will continue to be important, but the idea of trying to follow it to a tee will go away.

You look at a guy like Stefan, who's on the cutting edge of HU, which is a game where people play much more like the solver than 6m and especially 9m, and he's crushing guys who take solver lines with 90-95% accuracy.

Nowadays people use the solver as a defensive tool, as a framework for play. I imagine in 5-10 years, if online NLHE is intact, you will see a renaissance of people using the solver less like defense and more like a weapon to destroy their opponents.

Just my 2c though.

WNBA is the softest market ever.

Sick bro. Ive always heard that but never actually bet it except once or twice for the hell of it. Theres professionals that play solely wnba but its hard to get a lot down on it they say

It's mostly because the Aces are so stacked and such heavy favorites this year that -280 is too low for them even going up against what's supposed to be the second-best team in the league.

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My biggest issue was being too much of a station on the river so I'll probably be working on that the most this month.

I guess getting a lot down is relative. 9k for me is a lot but to NFL bettors it's peanuts. The max for WNBA is usually like 7500 but if you have multiple books it's fine.

Oh I also had a revelation if you are playing probably between 2nl-200nl. You most likely should go for some type of staking/coaching type deal because of these factors.

1. No money to be made at these stakes (it's relative so maybe if you live in a different country you could make a living off 50nl/100nl but not in USA/Canada/UK).

2. You are going to need access to MDA/Heuristics unless you are some sort of savant and can distill GTO solver outputs. This is going to require top level Hand2Note Mastery which can take years.

3. The goal of online poker isn't to make money when you play micro/small stakes. It's ONLY to get better. This took me a long time to realize.

4. You can play live and crush (I play 1/2 and 2/5 live and it's so **** easy to print) if you need some money now and want to cash in on your poker skill.

5. Poker takes at least 5-7 years of consistent study/millions of hands/no auto piloting to get to high stakes. This is assuming you are intelligent/dedicated/driven. If you aren't all 3 of these then mid stakes maybe a more likely ceiling (nothing wrong with that and it still puts you top 1% in the world by far).

I recently started drilling the GTO Wizard study trainer and I make at least 1 mistake on every hand, very humbling and also motivating.

Basically, there isn't much money to be made online in poker but if you do love the game then you should continue to get better and figure out how to make money on the side (lots of ways to make money that are easier than poker).

I'm very thankful I found a good coaching stable with staking as I want to get as good at poker as I can but I'm also not in a rush. I don't want to be one of those guys that is glued to his PC for 12 hours a day. I want to dedicate around 4 hours a day but also do other things to make money/be somewhat balanced.

Okay just some thoughts I had, good luck.

It was also the spot, they had 3 days rest and Becky Hammon is the best coach in the league by a country mile.

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9k is huge, its a lot of money, congrats. I more mean for guys that are professionals, it relatively is not a lot when they are looking to get 50 or 100k down on a game. And then they run into the problem of not getting action so they have to get other people to put down bets for them but a lot of the time the book knows who its for. I wish i had that problem. I used to do more sports betting than poker but over the last year ive gotten back into poker more again. But its so much easier to make money on sports.