[OFFICIAL] Official Online NLHE Chat Thread - Page 65 - Micro Stakes Pot Limit and No Limit

It was mostly just boring and annoying. It rained for like 30 hours straight while the temperatures held around 34 degrees. So all the trees froze and their limbs fell onto the power lines all over the city. I still much prefer it to try the -100 wind chills up north.

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02-06-2023 , 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by thr33bet

Great progress in spite of the downswing. Do your goals involve moving up to 200z after 50z or do you have an in-between stake like 100nl reg?

I played 150kish hands of 200 Zone in 2022 at .5ish BB/100, but I moved back down to work on my game some more. I found it significantly tougher. I want to play 200-500z for 5+ BB/100 in time. I avoid reg tables for now because I don't find them fun, but will obviously be forced to play them if I move up high enough.

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02-06-2023 , 09:01 AM

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Koss

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I'm not sure how it is in your pool but at least in mine (not zoom, just reg tables) 200NL is significantly tougher than 100NL, to the point where I'm wondering if it's a financial mistake to even try 200. It's somewhat conceivable to me that even for an elite player (which I admittedly am not) that they make double the WR at 100NL than 200NL just taking advantage of all the additional weaker players.

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02-06-2023 , 12:15 PM

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wereallgonnamakeit

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Originally Posted by Koss

it's possible they could, especially if they added volume. But the only way to get to 500nl is to beat 200nl, so there really isn't a point in staying at 100 if you are trying to make serious money

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02-06-2023 , 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by wereallgonnamakeit

it's possible they could, especially if they added volume. But the only way to get to 500nl is to beat 200nl, so there really isn't a point in staying at 100 if you are trying to make serious money

Yeah I get that, but I was thinking even regardless of volume. My 200NL WR is around 4bb/100, and I'm clearing over 10bb/100 at 100NL. There are almost no "good" regs at 100NL, and at 200NL they can make up almost half the pool. And there are definitely times when there are 500 and 1K games that look softer that most 200.

I agree that you aren't going to make serious money at 100, but I do think an important skill is identifying the most profitable games, even if you are rolled and skilled for 1k if the opposition is strong I could easily see a soft 100 or 200NL game being more profitable in terms of $/hr.

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02-06-2023 , 01:02 PM

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wereallgonnamakeit

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Originally Posted by Koss

I disagree that 500-1k is almost ever softer than 200, at least on public sites. In general the stakes get harder as you go up and you need to keep challenging yourself to get better.

Also, even a 2bb wr at 1knl is 2x the hourly of a 10bb wr at 100. If you are profitable at a higher stake you should just play it and not seek to be complacent.

I get your point though, if you play for a living it might be prudent to stay at 100 a bit, but still I think choosing the higher stakes is maximal EV in the long run

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02-06-2023 , 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by wereallgonnamakeit

Michigan would be a unique case on our closed sites. There are certain times one can log in and play 500nl with the same couple of 200nl regs and a couple of bad recs chasing losses while most the other 200nl tables are loaded with regs. Just speaking from looking at the lobby, I'm a bankroll nit and played all of 15 hands at 500nl last year

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02-07-2023 , 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by starscream1101

PA is very similar, I’m a 200 reg ATM, but I’m always checking the 500 games and take shots anytime I see a good lineup. You can always just leave if things aren’t going well, but so far taking these shots when games are juicy has been excellent for my bankroll.

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02-18-2023 , 07:08 PM

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PokerGo biggest cash game. $4.5m on the table

tonight's session is free on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YFOlG3JP6A

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02-18-2023 , 07:49 PM

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Not poker related but I follow some professional sports bettors on twitter and one of them said information leaked about the NBA Slam Dunk contest and how the winner is pre determined.

You can get McClung now at -110

I put $500 on it, let's hope it's true

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02-18-2023 , 08:00 PM

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newguyhere

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GL - I bet a little on Herro to win the 3p contest

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02-18-2023 , 08:01 PM

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rickroll

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wait what? why would they predetermine the dunk contest winner? i'm really confused, can you share where you're getting that info?

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02-18-2023 , 08:10 PM

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Mac is pretty big favorite. Short guy and has creative dunks. So wouldn't be surprised to see him win, predetermined or not.

But assuming the fix isn't actually in, I think Sims has a good shot.

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02-18-2023 , 08:12 PM

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wereallgonnamakeit

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Originally Posted by rickroll

wait what? why would they predetermine the dunk contest winner? i'm really confused, can you share where you're getting that info?

companies with billions like the nba definitely has dome algorithm to determine which winners are most beneficial, for PR, jerseys sold, etc.

idk if it’s 100% “fixed” but for sure there is upper level pressure

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02-18-2023 , 08:15 PM

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I'm not a full believer in the fix, but if there was ever any evidence it was LaVine beating Aaron Gordon.

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02-18-2023 , 11:26 PM

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You could definitely convince me it was fixed with how bad that Sims dunk was.

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02-18-2023 , 11:27 PM

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newguyhere

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McClung has easily been the best dunker

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02-18-2023 , 11:48 PM

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Yeah didn't need that to be rigged that was just a good bet, not even close.

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02-23-2023 , 07:06 AM

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Did you guys survive "riper" in Wordle yesterday? It was supposed to be the biggest streak buster since "parer". I got it in 6. It was my first time needing to use three elimination rounds.

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02-23-2023 , 07:15 AM

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newguyhere

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Got it in 5

Currently on my best streak of 45

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02-23-2023 , 08:27 AM

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Did you guys survive "riper" in Wordle yesterday? It was supposed to be the biggest streak buster since "parer". I got it in 6. It was my first time needing to use three elimination rounds.

I got it in 6. That puts my current streak only at 50. But riper busted my brother’s streak at 149 though.

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02-27-2023 , 12:20 PM

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Captain Underpairs

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I have a dumb question #1 - in GTO wiz when it says to raise by percentage - what is the sizing? So lets say it says to raise 250% - is that 2.5x? Or a 100% if the pot is 20bb and villain bets 10bb - we raise 20bb?

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02-27-2023 , 12:21 PM

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Captain Underpairs

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I have a dumb question #2 - if we are getting rakeback of say 27% - should we widen our calling range out of the blinds?

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02-27-2023 , 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Underpairs

So the way you do raise as a % of the pot is first you figure out how much to call. So if it's 10 in to 20, we'd "call" 10, and now the pot is 40. So to raise 250% we'd put out 100 more, so our total amount put out would be 110%. A pot size raise in this spot would be to 50.

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I have a dumb question #2 - if we are getting rakeback of say 27% - should we widen our calling range out of the blinds?

In theory yes. You'd just simulate the spot with 27% less rake. How much that affects ranges I'm not entirely sure. I'm fairly confident in saying it's not something that has returns worth spending any time on.

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