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04-28-2022 , 04:56 AM
Do any of my Iggy players "table select" when playing reg tables?

Join a table and leave if there are no broken stacks?

Join a table (with all full stacks) and play 20 hands or so and leave if you don't notice anyone as an obvious rec?
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04-28-2022 , 05:03 AM
Absolutely. Yes.

Takes more than seeing full stacks to get me to leave though. Definitely recs and whales playing with full stacks.
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04-28-2022 , 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Koss
I purchased the course. I'm not too deep into the course yet but preflop charts are wholly uninteresting. You can probably guess at them and be 99% right. One of the first lessons is about how to simplify from his charts and what adjustments make sense given certain rake structures.

I'm actually intrigued by the redline course and am considering doing that first. It's pretty short, but it has a section on overbetting (something the red line winners I know do a LOT of) and a deep dive into the BxB line which I have really high hopes for. There's another section on check raising as well. I'll probably save it for the end, but I'm not gonna lie that section has me much more intrigued than the main Exploits course.
I also bought the course. I don't like the pre-flop charts much at all. They do weird things like choosing 6 BBs as the 3-betting size against a 2.5x and 7 BBs against a 3x. Facing an in position raise from the SB, it goes 9.5 BBs against 2.5x which seems slightly weird. From the BB, it does go 10 BBs which is more in line with what I am used to seeing from top players. It is entirely possible that these sizings are actually good for reasons that are beyond me. Maybe it will be explained more in the pre-flop section of the course. But I worry that Uri had nothing to do with these sizings, and that these charts were just randomly thrown into the package by someone else. It will still be nice for cleaning up my BB defense against 2x and 3x though. I see these sizings a ton in my Zone games.

I have already finished the Red line course. It was quite a bit different than I expected. I thought it was going to be a lot of "lulz regs usually do so-and-so and here is how you wreck their mistakes". Instead, it is a lot of PIO work with some node-locking and a lot of conceptual prose. It has a lot more to do with why we overbet, and why we choose certain sizes in the bet-check-bet game. But after watching it, I do feel like I have a much better understanding of when and how to attack people with overbets. It's good, but I am not sure if it is $250-300 good which I think was its original price. I will need to rewatch it and get a few weeks of practice in before I can say for sure.

This morningt, I plan to work on the check-raise course.

As of right now, it is way too early for me to say whether the course is worth 1k. I haven't even started the main course... just doing the "Red Line Rocketship" course so far.
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04-28-2022 , 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Unguarded
I also bought the course. I don't like the pre-flop charts much at all. They do weird things like choosing 6 BBs as the 3-betting size against a 2.5x and 7 BBs against a 3x. Facing an in position raise from the SB, it goes 9.5 BBs against 2.5x which seems slightly weird. From the BB, it does go 10 BBs which is more in line with what I am used to seeing from top players. It is entirely possible that these sizings are actually good for reasons that are beyond me. Maybe it will be explained more in the pre-flop section of the course. But I worry that Uri had nothing to do with these sizings, and that these charts were just randomly thrown into the package by someone else. It will still be nice for cleaning up my BB defense against 2x and 3x though. I see these sizings a ton in my Zone games.
Monker bet sizings do not include the original raise size. So when the button opens to 2.5bb (5sb), the SB is supposed to 3bet to 17sb+5sb = 22sb or 11bb. I know it seems counter intuitive in the way they describe the sizings, but I'm not seeing the weird stuff you are mentioning above.




I'm also excited to do the Redline Rocketship
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04-28-2022 , 07:22 AM
Haha, ty starscream1101... I definitely messed that part up! I even read the little FAQ at the bottom which explains what you just said. I just didn't read it closely enough. In that case, the sizings are very similar to what I am used to. So I supposed I like the charts just fine then lol. It is definitely nice to finally have some 3x charts since that is the most popular sizing in my games.
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04-28-2022 , 09:39 AM
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Haha, ty starscream1101... I definitely messed that part up! I even read the little FAQ at the bottom which explains what you just said. I just didn't read it closely enough. In that case, the sizings are very similar to what I am used to. So I supposed I like the charts just fine then lol. It is definitely nice to finally have some 3x charts since that is the most popular sizing in my games.
No worries Just remember that these ranges are GTOish ranges that are used as a base. His course is teaching us to adjust these ranges to different player archetypes. This is an exploitative course where we learn to deviate from or adjust the ranges to the various games we play. Please don't just copy these ranges and expect our win-rates to increase. Each one of his videos in the preflop section is explaining the base and giving us a couple of examples in specific spots of adjusting these ranges to different types of players. We need to take the examples / tools and extend them out to other configurations.

I'd suggest making your own ranges for common spots (it'd be insane to do it for the 500 something ranges in this course) and color coding them appropriately. Equilab / FreebetRange / PokerRanger2 are all good tools to help with that.
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04-29-2022 , 06:31 AM
I am currently having a terrible experience with table selecting.
By this I mean regs are sitting out on me, they refuse to engage at 20NL and 30NL regular tables.
I'm not even good wtf this.
I had a chat with one guy 5mins ago , he said:
what did you expect?
me: to play
him: no edge, bla bla bla.

This is extremely frustrating.
How do these guys expect to ever move up if they start selecting like madman at the micros.
I remember I battled everyone of them, never giving up, etc.. and now they only play 3 handed minimum.
This is ridiculous.
I hate the zoom format and only played it cause of huge promo.
Pretty sure I have less than 10k hands lifetime heads up in cash games.
I'm beyond annoyed.
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04-29-2022 , 07:46 AM
Have you tried playing worse?
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04-29-2022 , 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by weeeez
I am currently having a terrible experience with table selecting..
If you play hu in those stakes and neither is bad then only winner is the house. They move up by beating the recs and making money. When there are no more recs they will settle there and mix stakes. Don't know if tableninjas etc are still a thing to hunt recs.
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04-29-2022 , 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Ceres
Have you tried playing worse?
I literally spit out my coffee when I read this.
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04-29-2022 , 08:56 AM
What's happened to auto top up on stars?
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04-29-2022 , 09:23 AM
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What's happened to auto top up on stars?
If you are from UK your goverment decided it's a nogo. Check nvg.
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04-29-2022 , 10:50 AM
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If you are from UK your goverment decided it's a nogo. Check nvg.
FML
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04-29-2022 , 12:44 PM
Ouch, what a stupid regulation.
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04-29-2022 , 01:22 PM
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Ouch, what a stupid regulation.
I thought it was buggy software lol.. I'm sure I'll get used to it but its super annoying
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04-29-2022 , 02:53 PM
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I thought it was buggy software lol.. I'm sure I'll get used to it but its super annoying
If you have StarsCaption, you can have it set to click "ok" and close dialog boxes. Just need to click "add chips" in the top right and then Caption will click ok and close the window super fast for ya.
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04-29-2022 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by weeeez
I am currently having a terrible experience with table selecting.
By this I mean regs are sitting out on me, they refuse to engage at 20NL and 30NL regular tables.
I'm not even good wtf this.
I had a chat with one guy 5mins ago , he said:
what did you expect?
me: to play
him: no edge, bla bla bla.

This is extremely frustrating.
How do these guys expect to ever move up if they start selecting like madman at the micros.
I remember I battled everyone of them, never giving up, etc.. and now they only play 3 handed minimum.
This is ridiculous.
I hate the zoom format and only played it cause of huge promo.
Pretty sure I have less than 10k hands lifetime heads up in cash games.
I'm beyond annoyed.
This is how it's going to be for the rest of your poker career unfortunately. Regs are starting to get more serious and they don't want to play for tiny edges. What site are you on? The best way to combat this is just playing on a site with more volume.
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04-30-2022 , 09:19 PM
Doing a revision to my main HUD because I had too many stats that weren't useful in an anonymous pool where the stats don't carry over.

I've got it down to

$ won/lost
# of hands
VPIP
PFR
3B
Fold to 3B
Steal
Fold to Steal
Agg
Went to Showdown


Anything worth adding or taking away? Keep in mind I do have a pop-up with a bunch of other stats that might not be useful, but it's there nonetheless.
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05-01-2022 , 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by weeeez
I am currently having a terrible experience with table selecting.
By this I mean regs are sitting out on me, they refuse to engage at 20NL and 30NL regular tables.
I'm not even good wtf this.
I had a chat with one guy 5mins ago , he said:
what did you expect?
me: to play
him: no edge, bla bla bla.

This is extremely frustrating.
How do these guys expect to ever move up if they start selecting like madman at the micros.
I remember I battled everyone of them, never giving up, etc.. and now they only play 3 handed minimum.
This is ridiculous.
I hate the zoom format and only played it cause of huge promo.
Pretty sure I have less than 10k hands lifetime heads up in cash games.
I'm beyond annoyed.
not the regs fault, blame the site for charging ridiculous rake.
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05-01-2022 , 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by newguyhere
Doing a revision to my main HUD because I had too many stats that weren't useful in an anonymous pool where the stats don't carry over.

I've got it down to

$ won/lost
# of hands
VPIP
PFR
3B
Fold to 3B
Steal
Fold to Steal
Agg
Went to Showdown


Anything worth adding or taking away? Keep in mind I do have a pop-up with a bunch of other stats that might not be useful, but it's there nonetheless.
What's the purpose of the "$ won/lost" stat? To figure out if the player is on tilt?

The "Fold to Steal" stat seems a bit unnecessary too as you can usually figure it from the VPIP.
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05-01-2022 , 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ZKesic
What's the purpose of the "$ won/lost" stat? To figure out if the player is on tilt?

Pretty much
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05-01-2022 , 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by newguyhere
Keep in mind I do have a pop-up with a bunch of other stats that might not be useful, but it's there nonetheless.
I keep my main HUD pretty sparse and go to the pop up for all the other numbers I may need. Though I only play 3 tables and no zone or high speed stuff. So I have time to refer to the pop up when necessary.
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05-01-2022 , 09:19 AM
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Though I only play 3 tables and no zone or high speed stuff.
Same. Occasionally I play 4 lol
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05-01-2022 , 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ZKesic
What's the purpose of the "$ won/lost" stat? To figure out if the player is on tilt?

The "Fold to Steal" stat seems a bit unnecessary too as you can usually figure it from the VPIP.
It’s useful on ignition because there’s no auto top up, so you can see if someone did a 30bb buy in or just lost a big pot recently and hasn’t had time to top off
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05-01-2022 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by newguyhere
Doing a revision to my main HUD because I had too many stats that weren't useful in an anonymous pool where the stats don't carry over.

I've got it down to

$ won/lost
# of hands
VPIP
PFR
3B
Fold to 3B
Steal
Fold to Steal
Agg
Went to Showdown


Anything worth adding or taking away? Keep in mind I do have a pop-up with a bunch of other stats that might not be useful, but it's there nonetheless.
Fold to 3b, steal, and fold to steal are not really that useful over the tiny samples we get on ignition . I have open limp % on mine
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