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10-31-2008 , 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Damntra
Just found out that one of the positions I interviewed for last week wants to do a second round interview with me!!!!!!!
Congrats, mate.

I do some of our company's more difficult job interviews - mostly I'm assigned the recruits on whom our technical lead thinks some kind of psychological and emotional evaluation is needed in addition to the technical assessment. This week wasn't too good in that sense, as I was forced to turn down a really potential recruit. Basically everything in his character was what I have been looking for and nothing in his experience was what we could use. So sick.

Hell, I needed 36 hours to make up my mind whether to recommend we hire him as a trainee or turn him down. Usually it's clear during the interview, and even in the corner cases it takes no more than 2 hours of going through the notes.

The only thing I can hope is that the person in question finds a good employer that can use his whole skillset. He was THAT good.
10-31-2008 , 05:45 PM
I was thinking about being Chef Hannibal Lechter..you know...straight jacket...face guard...chef's hat...and then a plate with liver and fava beans and a bottle of Chianti. *makes slurping noises, ftw*
10-31-2008 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by RapidEvolution
I was thinking about being Chef Hannibal Lechter..you know...straight jacket...face guard...chef's hat...and then a plate with liver and fava beans and a bottle of Chianti. *makes slurping noises, ftw*
no bs, I was just getting ready to go eat dinner. thanks a lot, buddy.
10-31-2008 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by notontilt09
I have 6 hours to find a costume... hmmmm
Being on my tables is so -EV for finding a costume b/c I am a payoff wizard and just spew money your way. :P
10-31-2008 , 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by mpethybridge
, too.
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Originally Posted by LearningCurve
IMO Rusty is the avatar king around here. Alright I know many are scantily clad females so my kudos might seem a bit strange. However, he is continually keeping things fresh which makes things fun.

Woot, Damntra! Congrats!!!
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Originally Posted by Bostik
Congrats, mate.
Danke, danke.

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Originally Posted by Bostik
I do some of our company's more difficult job interviews - mostly I'm assigned the recruits on whom our technical lead thinks some kind of psychological and emotional evaluation is needed in addition to the technical assessment. This week wasn't too good in that sense, as I was forced to turn down a really potential recruit. Basically everything in his character was what I have been looking for and nothing in his experience was what we could use. So sick.

Hell, I needed 36 hours to make up my mind whether to recommend we hire him as a trainee or turn him down. Usually it's clear during the interview, and even in the corner cases it takes no more than 2 hours of going through the notes.

The only thing I can hope is that the person in question finds a good employer that can use his whole skillset. He was THAT good.
Sometimes I wonder if I should take one of those classes on how to interview well.

Any suggestions?
10-31-2008 , 06:57 PM
my halloween costume is an unemployed bum ok the beach of Hawaii. On another note I hit a new personal high for me, 8 full days without playing poker. But if fulltilt had a client for the iPhone I probably would have played a sng or something
10-31-2008 , 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Damntra
Danke, danke.
Sometimes I wonder if I should take one of those classes on how to interview well.

Any suggestions?
Be yourself. Don't be afraid of the interviewer, he wants to know as much about you as you can ever imagine. And unless he has a predetermined bias, he wants to hire you. YOU ARE THERE BECAUSE YOU WERE DEEMED GOOD ENOUGH TO CHECK OUT! Talk. Don't blabber. Stay focused. Be aware if the interviewer is friendly. Everything you say and do is meaningful. Especially after the interview session. As long as you are in presence of the company interviewer, expect to be judged and monitored.

I'm an absolute prick when it comes to interviewing people. I will ask nearly out-of-line questions that test the limits of technical understanding, and more than anything, give me hints as to what kind of person I'm talking to. I will pull every dirty trick in the book and a few addendums I wrote myself. I will systematically try to find things that don't match in the CV and the history I'm given. I will constantly expect to be lied to. Don't do that. Contradictory comments are dangerous.

For instance, I will regularly ask what university courses the recruit plagiarised on. My boss hates that one but he can't really forbid me because he knows why I do it. The answer is rarely meaningful, but the reaction of the recruit is what I'm interested in. Anyone who tries to lie to me, will face a series of ever more subtle questions probing out his limits and where he thinks he needs help.

Also, be prepared to expect the interviewer to have made a thorough search on your name. Everything you have done, everything you have said - and most of all - everything you have written on public mailing lists, will be subject to scrutiny. You will be likely asked about your hobbies and out-of-work interests. Answer honestly.

When asked about your nature, be fair but never, EVER leave out the chance to point out how you are addressing your potential shortcomings. Just be subtle about that. And for the love of all that is good and holy, please avoid the cliché phrase "able and quick to learn [new things]". We have all heard that, and every single job application or CV has that in one form of the other. Provide an example where that applies instead. Deeds are ten times the worth of words.

You are in the interview to advertise yourself. Think of the best ads you've seen and try to figure out exactly why they are so good. Use that to your advantage. Don't be afraid to point out your strengths - and what personal "flaws" they may cover or help against, be willing to accept both the flaw as well as the strength.

We as interviewers don't search for superhumans. We understand that finding a perfect match happens maybe once or twice in our entire career. Make sure you stand out as not necessarily good enough but far more able than your competition.

90% of new recruits need to be trained in somehow in any case. That is perhaps the most important thing to remember. You can not expect to fit in at any company straight away, no matter how qualified you are. Every firm has their own way of doing things and their own set of stuff they emphasize.

I think that's pretty much enough. Dress well. Sleep properly on the previous night. Your appearance will be a factor. If you really need a mental booster, think of your interviewers as performers in a circus, with the invisible circus master waving his whip somewhere.

Even the interviewer is just doing his job. If he's any good, he wants to do it well.
10-31-2008 , 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Damntra
Danke, danke.



Sometimes I wonder if I should take one of those classes on how to interview well.

Any suggestions?
I use to do all my teams interviews and thought it was a really good process until it showed it still had flaws since I hired a degenerate POS neuratic gambler in Gman.
10-31-2008 , 07:31 PM
I am from Europa, but always interested in learning stuff, so if somebody know, please tell me:

What is the history/philosophy behind Halloween?

Btw, if you haven't seen the movie 'felon', check it out, it's awesome
10-31-2008 , 07:32 PM
I'm being Jason Giambi. Or at least attempting. Unfortunately I have not been preparing for this costume for the past 5 years by taking anabolic steroids.
10-31-2008 , 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by mpethybridge
oh, how the mighty have fallen.
Wow, I have been busy this month! Usually I'm top-5 and this month I'm not even on the list...
10-31-2008 , 07:36 PM
Mine:




My wife's:

10-31-2008 , 07:36 PM
be yourself. Don't try and bs anyone, the don't expect you to know everyhing but are really asking you questions to see you problem solving skills and your ability to articulate your answers. If you don't know the answer tellbtje then walk them through the assumptions you need to make to answer the question. After the interview go back and write up a response to all those questions with references and proper formatting and then email it to them. Also write out thank you cards for each person that interview you and mail them individually. Ask insightful questions and not questions that you can find the answer to with a web search, you should know all that information already.
10-31-2008 , 07:44 PM
Halloween seems a bit crazy. Why do you light up food?
10-31-2008 , 07:55 PM
WTF is wrong with people?

Our next door neighbours, who have two little girls about 8 and 10 are not home. However, they left their porch light on!

Even better, they left their black cat out. So she was on their front step meowing to come in. We're in townhouses so their door is like 6 feet from ours. We took the cat in and she's locked in our bathroom, sleeping. WTF is wrong with these people?
10-31-2008 , 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDataKid
Halloween seems a bit crazy. Why do you light up food?
It's really just an excuse to worship the old gods...

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
10-31-2008 , 08:08 PM
Okay, you should always respect the old gods.
10-31-2008 , 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Cry Me A River
WTF is wrong with people?

Our next door neighbours, who have two little girls about 8 and 10 are not home. However, they left their porch light on!

Even better, they left their black cat out. So she was on their front step meowing to come in. We're in townhouses so their door is like 6 feet from ours. We took the cat in and she's locked in our bathroom, sleeping. WTF is wrong with these people?
Did you just steal a cat?
10-31-2008 , 08:13 PM


Sigh, not too many more of these left...

Happy Halloween!
10-31-2008 , 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by richbrown360
Did you just steal a cat?
Nobody owns a cat.
10-31-2008 , 08:25 PM
A cat belongs to freedom, just like any other animal.

Except for dogs, they wouldn't survive a day if you left them.
10-31-2008 , 08:37 PM
(or they should be killed)
10-31-2008 , 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDataKid
(or they should be killed)
LOL.
10-31-2008 , 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDataKid
A cat belongs to freedom, just like any other animal.

Except for dogs, they wouldn't survive a day if you left them.
http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/show...fpart=all&vc=1

(Warning: Legendary thread!)
10-31-2008 , 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Cry Me A River
That's a bit random isn't it?

I didn't read all of it but did the food turn out to be dog?

"How do you know cow dicks are inedible?" Rofl

      
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