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10-16-2008 , 01:25 AM
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I really don't recall many tilt situations as a lawyer.
You mean David E Kelley and John Grisham have been lying to me all these years and lawyer isn't a super-high stress occupation?

At least tell me how much you miss Plan B!!

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ignoring the potato quip sort of because I know you have some anti-military thing going on.
No, I have an anti-American thing going on, remember?

Some of my best friends are American - Not that there's anything wrong with that!
10-16-2008 , 08:11 AM
^^ up ^^
10-16-2008 , 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Cry Me A River
You mean David E Kelley and John Grisham have been lying to me all these years and lawyer isn't a super-high stress occupation?

At least tell me how much you miss Plan B!!



No, I have an anti-American thing going on, remember?

Some of my best friends are American - Not that there's anything wrong with that!
lolol

it's high stress for sure, I just didn't have many occasions to blow up, scream and break things.

I know you are teasing a bit, but the serious answer is that there wasn't any luck involved. The things that cause me to really blow up are the things that are out of my control. I put my money in way ahead and the villain spikes a miracle two outer with one card to come. The closest equivalent is somebody working for you doing screwing up really badly or a judge being ridiculously arbitrary. Those things just didn't happen that much.

I never used Plan B--the only murder case I ever defended was a self defense case. It sure seemed like fun, though.
10-16-2008 , 12:20 PM
Comcast still hasnt fixed nething...
10-16-2008 , 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by mpethybridge
I know you are teasing a bit,
NOWAI!

Internet Serious Business!!

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but the serious answer is that there wasn't any luck involved.
However, the consequences of losing at trial, or just screwing up some paperwork vastly exceed losing to a two outer at 100NL..

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The things that cause me to really blow up are the things that are out of my control.
Rather than looking to punish yourself by doing laps I'm thinking you'd be better served going after the underlying issues here. If you've previously been to the point of getting you're tossed in Federal PMITA Prison when things went badly, this obviously isn't really a new issue for you. It's just that the capriciousness of poker brings out whatever control, perfectionist, and possibly anger management issues you may have.

Obviously I don't don't know you well enough to even armchair pop-pyschoanalyse you. And I'm not saying you're a raving lunatic or anything. But, if you have some control freak type tendencies, that may even rarely ever occur in your normal life, I could definitely see poker bringing them right to the surface.

Do you read the Psychology forum? It's actually a really good, high quality forum with lots of tilt related threads and advice (I used to be a semi-reg there in my early days on 2+2). And I expect if you spend five minutes Googling you could go all Dr Phil and come up with all kinds of control/anger management exercises and whatnot.

Okay, maybe not Dr. Phil so much... All's I'm saying it that it seems like you're trying to treat the symptom, not the underlying cause. Now that underlying cause may not normally be any kind of a big deal (then again, do you find yourself arranging things all the time so they're perfectly place/aligned? Do you wash you hands a lot? Are you always counting everything?) but poker is just pushing the right buttons. So this "issue" is something you might otherwise never have to really deal with (or very rarely, as when a judge screws you over). But if it's a recurring problem for you with poker, you may have to go a little deeper with the whole "self-examination" thing than just "drop and give me twenty".

Last edited by Cry Me A River; 10-16-2008 at 12:58 PM.
10-16-2008 , 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ForGlory
Okay Notontilt I have position on you tonight. Let's have some more BS blind steal 3 bet spots lol.
lol, wish I had seen this last night... there was a pot that I opened the button w/ some trash, and said to myself "if he 3bets I'm leaving... cus this is just gonna get silly"

of course, you 3b and i called, u cbet Kxx and won... and I insta left and found two tables w/ open seats to ur left.

Btw... wtf were you doing in that hand where you called a minbet on all 3 streets w/ AQ on a T886x board.

UTG kept minbet flop/turn/river... i was sandwiched in between u two w/ 77, and kept calling the minbets... and u called 3 times behind me. Thought for sure you have to have 99 or JT
10-16-2008 , 01:07 PM
Just got called down in a 250 BB deep pot.

Me: AKs nutflushdraw and 2 overs
Villain: 53o

Villain wins with bottom pair.
10-16-2008 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Cry Me A River
NOWAI!

Internet Serious Business!!



However, the consequences of losing at trial, or just screwing up some paperwork vastly exceed losing to a two outer at 100NL..



Rather than looking to punish yourself by doing laps I'm thinking you'd be better served going after the underlying issues here. If you've previously been to the point of getting you're tossed in Federal PMITA Prison when things went badly, this obviously isn't really a new issue for you. It's just that the capriciousness of poker brings out whatever control, perfectionist, and possibly anger management issues you may have.

Obviously I don't don't know you well enough to even armchair pop-pyschoanalyse you. And I'm not saying you're a raving lunatic or anything. But, if you have some control freak type tendencies, that may even rarely ever occur in your normal life, I could definitely see poker bringing them right to the surface.

Do you read the Psychology forum? It's actually a really good, high quality forum with lots of tilt related threads and advice (I used to be a semi-reg there in my early days on 2+2). And I expect if you spend five minutes Googling you could go all Dr Phil and come up with all kinds of control/anger management exercises and whatnot.

Okay, maybe not Dr. Phil so much... All's I'm saying it that it seems like you're trying to treat the symptom, not the underlying cause. Now that underlying cause may not normally be any kind of a big deal (then again, do you find yourself arranging things all the time so they're perfectly place/aligned? Do you wash you hands a lot? Are you always counting everything?) but poker is just pushing the right buttons. So this "issue" is something you might otherwise never have to really deal with (or very rarely, as when a judge screws you over). But if it's a recurring problem for you with poker, you may have to go a little deeper with the whole "self-examination" thing than just "drop and give me twenty".
I think the whole self-control thing is habit. I have gotten into some bad habits with respect to losing my temper.

TDK and I are just having a little fun with something I am trying to work on on my own.

BTW, sorry TDK; I played a short sesh today and +1 BI. Nothing even remotely interesting happened.
10-16-2008 , 02:08 PM
I'm a psychology lurker. The psychological aspects of the game are so underrated, and they always were and are the most difficult leaks to plug, at least imo.
10-16-2008 , 02:16 PM
finally had my first 2 sessions in a row at NL50 that I felt like my sessions at NL25. Basically were you feel completely in control, and you feel like all the villains have their cards face up. +12 BI...yeah.
10-16-2008 , 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by pheisar
I'm a psychology lurker. The psychological aspects of the game are so underrated, and they always were and are the most difficult leaks to plug, at least imo.
I would tend to agree. Once you know how to play solid ABC poker I think the game actually becomes the struggle to master youself vs the competition. Especially in the micros. As you progress up in stakes it's not only mastering yourself, but others as well.
10-16-2008 , 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by mpethybridge
Done.

went off without a hitch. no scamming, etc., etc., I would gladly transfer money with zyrrth again.
Hey Mpethy. Just noticed this post. Are you still interested in PS$ for FTP$? I'm looking to move a small part of my BR over to FTP to start grinding up 25NL there.
10-16-2008 , 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by SammyG-SD
finally had my first 2 sessions in a row at NL50 that I felt like my sessions at NL25. Basically were you feel completely in control, and you feel like all the villains have their cards face up. +12 BI...yeah.
Nice hand Sammy!
10-16-2008 , 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by JH1
Hey Mpethy. Just noticed this post. Are you still interested in PS$ for FTP$? I'm looking to move a small part of my BR over to FTP to start grinding up 25NL there.

how much do you want to transfer? I may be up for a FT for Stars with you. PM me the amt.
10-16-2008 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by knn05
how much do you want to transfer? I may be up for a FT for Stars with you. PM me the amt.
JH1, I just PM'd you that I'd be willing to do the transfer, but if knn05 doesn't mind maybe she could? I don't really want to move more money off tilt, but I will if you don't have any other options.
10-16-2008 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by SammyG-SD
finally had my first 2 sessions in a row at NL50 that I felt like my sessions at NL25. Basically were you feel completely in control, and you feel like all the villains have their cards face up. +12 BI...yeah.
I'm going to start playing $50NL soon. How long would you say it took for you to feel like that?
10-16-2008 , 03:11 PM
Anyone else having problems with HEM on FT today?
The HUD works ok but hands are not importing (?????????)
Even when I select todays HH with "Import File" there is nothing.
10-16-2008 , 03:17 PM
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TDK and I are just having a little fun with something I am trying to work on on my own.

BTW, sorry TDK; I played a short sesh today and +1 BI. Nothing even remotely interesting happened.
Well, I rather see you winning money then losing you on the forum/AIM, if you know what I mean
10-16-2008 , 04:08 PM
mmm... 11 ptbb over 8K hands... mmm...HEATURRRRRR
10-16-2008 , 04:20 PM
Nothing like getting set-over-setted twice in 150 hands to bring up the old confidence
10-16-2008 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Damntra
I'm going to start playing $50NL soon. How long would you say it took for you to feel like that?
about 90k hands....but I am slow.
10-16-2008 , 05:12 PM
ok wtf

PokerStars Game #21248549885: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/10/16 17:06:03 ET
Table 'Stromgrenia IV' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: SARA PEZ ($50.50 in chips)
Seat 2: goldberg2 ($52.75 in chips)
Seat 3: Tom Beam ($53.10 in chips)
Seat 4: MAGICCV24 ($48.75 in chips)
Seat 5: Stwolf1985 ($58.30 in chips)
Seat 6: dume27 ($44.20 in chips)
Seat 7: Chuck587 ($56.45 in chips)
Seat 8: rockman255 ($118.40 in chips)
Seat 9: FEARisPOWER ($49 in chips)
MAGICCV24: posts small blind $0.25
Stwolf1985: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FEARisPOWER [9c 9d]
dume27: calls $0.50
Chuck587 has timed out
Chuck587: folds
Chuck587 is sitting out
rockman255: folds
FEARisPOWER: calls $0.50
Chuck587 has returned
SARA PEZ: folds
goldberg2: raises $1.50 to $2
Tom Beam: calls $2
MAGICCV24: folds
Stwolf1985: folds
dume27: calls $1.50
FEARisPOWER: calls $1.50
*** FLOP *** [9h 8s Js]
dume27: checks
FEARisPOWER: checks
goldberg2: checks
Tom Beam: bets $5
dume27: folds
FEARisPOWER: raises $10.50 to $15.50
goldberg2: folds
Tom Beam: calls $10.50
*** TURN *** [9h 8s Js] [9s]
FEARisPOWER: checks
Tom Beam: bets $10
FEARisPOWER: raises $10 to $20
Tom Beam: calls $10
*** RIVER *** [9h 8s Js 9s] [Qs]
FEARisPOWER: bets $11.50 and is all-in
Tom Beam: calls $11.50
*** SHOW DOWN ***
FEARisPOWER: shows [9c 9d] (four of a kind, Nines)
Tom Beam: shows [Ts Tc] (a straight flush, Eight to Queen)
Tom Beam collected $99.75 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $102.75 | Rake $3
Board [9h 8s Js 9s Qs]
Seat 1: SARA PEZ folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: goldberg2 folded on the Flop
Seat 3: Tom Beam (button) showed [Ts Tc] and won ($99.75) with a straight flush, Eight to Queen
Seat 4: MAGICCV24 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Stwolf1985 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: dume27 folded on the Flop
Seat 7: Chuck587 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: rockman255 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: FEARisPOWER showed [9c 9d] and lost with four of a kind, Nines
10-16-2008 , 05:18 PM
Stop thinking quads is the nuts, ldo.


Srsly, tho, that's messed up
10-16-2008 , 05:22 PM
yeah sucked like hell. but i won a good bit at nl100 today so it was ok. the games are so juicy now its crazy. hope i run well one time at nl100

gl and see you at the tables!
10-16-2008 , 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by HurricaneNick
ok wtf

PokerStars Game #21248549885: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/10/16 17:06:03 ET
Table 'Stromgrenia IV' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: SARA PEZ ($50.50 in chips)
Seat 2: goldberg2 ($52.75 in chips)
Seat 3: Tom Beam ($53.10 in chips)
Seat 4: MAGICCV24 ($48.75 in chips)
Seat 5: Stwolf1985 ($58.30 in chips)
Seat 6: dume27 ($44.20 in chips)
Seat 7: Chuck587 ($56.45 in chips)
Seat 8: rockman255 ($118.40 in chips)
Seat 9: FEARisPOWER ($49 in chips)
MAGICCV24: posts small blind $0.25
Stwolf1985: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FEARisPOWER [9c 9d]
dume27: calls $0.50
Chuck587 has timed out
Chuck587: folds
Chuck587 is sitting out
rockman255: folds
FEARisPOWER: calls $0.50
Chuck587 has returned
SARA PEZ: folds
goldberg2: raises $1.50 to $2
Tom Beam: calls $2
MAGICCV24: folds
Stwolf1985: folds
dume27: calls $1.50
FEARisPOWER: calls $1.50
*** FLOP *** [9h 8s Js]
dume27: checks
FEARisPOWER: checks
goldberg2: checks
Tom Beam: bets $5
dume27: folds
FEARisPOWER: raises $10.50 to $15.50
goldberg2: folds
Tom Beam: calls $10.50
*** TURN *** [9h 8s Js] [9s]
FEARisPOWER: checks
Tom Beam: bets $10
FEARisPOWER: raises $10 to $20
Tom Beam: calls $10
*** RIVER *** [9h 8s Js 9s] [Qs]
FEARisPOWER: bets $11.50 and is all-in
Tom Beam: calls $11.50
*** SHOW DOWN ***
FEARisPOWER: shows [9c 9d] (four of a kind, Nines)
Tom Beam: shows [Ts Tc] (a straight flush, Eight to Queen)
Tom Beam collected $99.75 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $102.75 | Rake $3
Board [9h 8s Js 9s Qs]
Seat 1: SARA PEZ folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: goldberg2 folded on the Flop
Seat 3: Tom Beam (button) showed [Ts Tc] and won ($99.75) with a straight flush, Eight to Queen
Seat 4: MAGICCV24 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Stwolf1985 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: dume27 folded on the Flop
Seat 7: Chuck587 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: rockman255 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: FEARisPOWER showed [9c 9d] and lost with four of a kind, Nines
I failed miserably while trying to figure out if there was any other way possible to play the hand more face up than you did. By face up I mean that your hand is being shown to the table while the action occurs.

      
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