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07-24-2010 , 07:46 PM

#5776

NoMeansNo

banned

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3,263

Quote:

Originally Posted by aggo

no but i mean like calling and reevaluating is just dumb sometimes. Especially in obvious 2 barrel spots. I need to start folding.

Pretty much i play 50nl like this:

(a) ok who are the regs who can be leveled by aggression?
(b) who are the fish
(c) do my cards match the board? yes---> keep calling/raising

that's literally the extent of my thought process.

guy is a 49/5, is there anything else I should be doing here besides folding? Calling and trying to take it away later or raising flop is spew I think, but if he leads 3 streets for the minimum I will usually just call down for info.

Absolute, $0.01/$0.02 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 3 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

SB: $5.11
BB: $4
Hero (BTN): $4.99

Pre-Flop: 9

dealt to Hero (BTN)
Hero raises to $0.06, SB folds, BB calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.13) 6

(2 Players)
BB bets $0.04, Hero folds

Results: $0.13 Pot
BB showed and WON $0.13 (+$0.09 NET)

07-24-2010 , 07:50 PM

#5777

Stackajawea

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 5,100

raising flop is never really that spewy in that small of a pot if he's leading with trash he will fold

07-24-2010 , 07:50 PM

#5778

Viva La Crayon

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Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,691

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoMeansNo

dealt to Hero (BTN)
Hero raises to $0.06, SB folds, BB calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.13) 6

(2 Players)
BB bets $0.04, Hero folds

Results: $0.13 Pot
BB showed and WON $0.13 (+$0.09 NET)

Fold like 100%

You don't need to call down for 'info' against a 49/5 as all we know is get a good hands and like value bet all your decent hands. Any info vs this player won't change the way you play against him at all.

07-24-2010 , 07:52 PM

#5779

Josh!

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 536

I treat min bet leads like checks basically. Just like 4x it every single time and adjust if they're doing it with anything besides air.

07-24-2010 , 07:56 PM

#5780

Josh!

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 536

I f'n hate Cake. It's Saturday night and there's no games at 20nl or 50nl with free seats in them. 3 regs on every wait list and when I open new tables nobody joins.

07-24-2010 , 07:57 PM

#5781

NoMeansNo

banned

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3,263

Quote:

Originally Posted by immadeadbird

of course pro lol it made me lemme check my hem

$101.78. lol thats 10 buy ins and a cookie.

You've made 10 buyins in hands where you min-raise opened on btn?

07-24-2010 , 07:58 PM

#5782

bubbleking

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 449

This is my graph from the last week - really happy with it considering it was my first week back after an 11 month break - fish on a heater obviously. Its mostly 25nl but I played a bit of 50nl HU when I seen a whale sitting in.

07-24-2010 , 07:59 PM

#5783

Comstizzle

veteran

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,298

spraggy if u think thats bad:

Spoiler:

07-24-2010 , 08:01 PM

#5784

bubbleking

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 449

crap how do I post my balla graph?

07-24-2010 , 08:05 PM

#5785

NoMeansNo

banned

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3,263

Quote:

Originally Posted by bubbleking

crap how do I post my balla graph?

You are not legit.

07-24-2010 , 08:06 PM

#5786

EATITPAL

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 5,047

Nomeansno, you wasted your 3,000th post and didn't give us some insightful long strat post

07-24-2010 , 08:07 PM

#5787

Brian J

TOTP Master

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 10,650

lol

07-24-2010 , 08:09 PM

#5788

bubbleking

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 449

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoMeansNo

You've made 10 buyins in hands where you min-raise opened on btn?

I can see why in a lot of situations min raise opening the button is the most +EV play

07-24-2010 , 08:10 PM

#5789

NoMeansNo

banned

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3,263

Quote:

Originally Posted by EATITPAL

Nomeansno, you wasted your 3,000th post and didn't give us some insightful long strat post

I guess so, does it bother you? I couldn't care enough to even notice my post count. I didn't do anything on my 1Kth post or 2Kth post, I don't see why I should start now.

07-24-2010 , 08:13 PM

#5790

aggo

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 10,422

well, there has to be a better way to play this...

Full Tilt Poker $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP: $169.75
CO: $245.40
Hero (BTN): $206.20
SB: $200.00
BB: $221.85
UTG: $215.40

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BTN with Q

2 folds, CO calls $2, Hero raises to $6, 2 folds, CO calls $4

Flop: ($15.00) 8

(2 players)
CO bets $8, Hero calls $8

Turn: ($31.00) 7

(2 players)
CO bets $13, Hero raises to $38, CO raises to $63, Hero raises to $88, CO folds

Final Pot: $157.00
Hero wins $154.00
(Rake: $3.00)

07-24-2010 , 08:13 PM

#5791

Viva La Crayon

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Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,691

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoMeansNo

You've made 10 buyins in hands where you min-raise opened on btn?

What is bad about min-raising all buttons?

I do it and have made 15 buyins in 4623 BTN hands.

07-24-2010 , 08:16 PM

#5792

bubbleking

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 449

just flat when he raises to 63 imo and watch him spaz shove the river

07-24-2010 , 08:16 PM

#5793

behhh04

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Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,450

Quote:

Originally Posted by behhh04

Looking to trade $76 on stars for $76 on ftp. Anyone interested? I can send first.

bomp

07-24-2010 , 08:21 PM

#5794

NoMeansNo

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Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3,263

Quote:

Originally Posted by bubbleking

just flat when he raises to 63 imo and watch him spaz shove the river

He looked pot committed to me...

07-24-2010 , 08:21 PM

#5795

Comstizzle

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Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,298

Quote:

Originally Posted by aggo

2 folds, CO calls $2, Hero raises to $6, 2 folds, CO calls $4

Flop: ($15.00) 8

(2 players)
CO bets $8, Hero calls $8

Turn: ($31.00) 7

(2 players)
CO bets $13, Hero raises to $38, CO raises to $63, Hero raises to $88, CO folds

Final Pot: $157.00
Hero wins $154.00
(Rake: $3.00)

call turn 3bet and let him spaz river? or does that turn ur hand too face up?

07-24-2010 , 08:21 PM

#5796

NoMeansNo

banned

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3,263

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viva La Crayon

What is bad about min-raising all buttons?

I do it and have made 15 buyins in 4623 BTN hands.

I'm just going to 3b you everytime, gl, start 4betting light and my light 5-bet will own, you will have to start 6bet-shoving with air if you want to compete, stack sizes are weird and a 6bet would be needed because of the min-raise open.

Immadeadbird was literally min-raising every btn and I think he folded to everyone of my 3bets, it was a a month ago but I'm pretty sure he would open bigger with bigger hands.

07-24-2010 , 08:22 PM

#5797

Comstizzle

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Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,298

Quote:

Originally Posted by bubbleking

crap how do I post my balla graph?

u dont, imo

07-24-2010 , 08:24 PM

#5798

bubbleking

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 449

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoMeansNo

I'm just going to 3b you everytime, gl, start 4betting light and my 5bet-shove with air will own.

ah thats the beauty of it do you not see how spazy 3 betting from the BB every time would be?

you pwn yourself so bad

07-24-2010 , 08:24 PM

#5799

Comstizzle

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Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,298

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viva La Crayon

What is bad about min-raising all buttons?

I do it and have made 15 buyins in 4623 BTN hands.

it depends on blind tendencies, if u have a fish in hte blind whose likely to call preflop u want to build a pot IP, and often the most +EV thing to do is 4x or even 5x it if they'll call (i learned this playing headsup). on the other hand if their playing 3bet or fold for the most part minraising is likely the best strategy. pretty much it's situation specific how much is an optimal open, and depends on more factors than those stated above