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01-28-2010 , 08:19 AM

#6276

Clar17y

grinder

Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 685

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigacsiga

Standard?!

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG+2: $101.00
MP1: $55.40
MP2: $96.50
CO: $18.80
BTN: $157.65
Hero (SB): $205.70
BB: $104.60
UTG: $104.45
UTG+1: $100.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is SB with 6

3 folds, MP1 calls $1, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.50, BB checks

Flop: ($3.00) K

(3 players)
Hero bets $3, BB calls $3, MP1 folds

Turn: ($9.00) J

(2 players)
Hero bets $8, BB calls $8

River: ($25.00) 7

(2 players)
Hero bets $27, BB raises to $61, Hero folds

Final Pot: $79.00
BB wins $76.00
(Rake: $3.00)

Yea folding the nuts is profitable, oh wait.

01-28-2010 , 08:33 AM

#6277

Spraggy

Just Plain Nasty

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 9,095

Wow I would have been so angry

01-28-2010 , 08:34 AM

#6278

Mark89er

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 10,223

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigacsiga

3 folds, MP1 calls $1, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.50, BB checks

Flop: ($3.00) K

(3 players)
Hero bets $3, BB calls $3, MP1 folds

Turn: ($9.00) J

(2 players)
Hero bets $8, BB calls $8

River: ($25.00) 7

(2 players)
Hero bets $27, BB raises to $61, Hero folds

Final Pot: $79.00
BB wins $76.00
(Rake: $3.00)

the joys of playing 24 tables, lol

01-28-2010 , 08:38 AM

#6279

bigacsiga

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 7,836

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark89er

the joys of playing 24 tables, lol

had 12 HU tables running most of them fast, that killed my timebank

My brother was sweating me he just busted out laughing when he saw I timed out, knocking his tea over onto my lap

Getting my desk and pants wet was a bigger beat than the hand IMO

01-28-2010 , 08:39 AM

#6280

Ligic

banned

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,777

Quote:

Originally Posted by phenomenal

Point was that 3bet/call is marginally +EV at best in this very common spot. And with certain villains without dynamics clearly -EV. Happines EV is on the wrong side too. You either get it in vs AK and feel relieved. Or get it in vs bigger PP and feel like an idiot. No huge upside nowhere to be expected on happiness front.

EV: Flat>>> 3bet/call and 3bet/fold both are too close to call which is better.

Happiness EV: Flat >>> 3bet/fold >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3bet/call Not even close.

If you'd rather 3bet/fold JJ than 3bet/call, flat it and choose other hands to 3bet/fold with, because you are just wasting the value of your hand by 3bet/folding.
And you will sometimes have a villain 4b/fold vs you, and you will sometimes have villain get it in w 77-TT AJo+.
3bet/folding JJ is simply bad, don't turn a hand with great equity and playability into some weird play where you don't even know if you are bluffing or valuebetting

01-28-2010 , 08:46 AM

#6281

Simonlal

adept

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,083

Super standard but tilting as hell.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Full Tilt
SB ($55.75)
BB ($47.50)
Hero ($53.10)
UTG+1 ($49.75)
CO ($55.70)
BTN ($57.40)

Dealt to Hero Q

Hero raises to $2, UTG+1 calls $2, fold, fold, fold, fold

FLOP ($4.75) 9

Hero bets $4.50, UTG+1 calls $4.50

TURN ($13.75) 9

Hero bets $11, UTG+1 calls $11

RIVER ($35.75) 9

Hero bets $35.60 (AI), UTG+1 calls $32.25 (AI)

Hero shows Q

(Pre 67%, Flop 67.4%, Turn 79.5%)

UTG+1 shows K

(Pre 33%, Flop 32.6%, Turn 20.5%)

UTG+1 wins $97.25

01-28-2010 , 09:20 AM

#6282

JackOfPain

veteran

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,258

Can someone advise some MTT's next sunday for about $50-$100, don't have a lot of MTT experience.

01-28-2010 , 09:40 AM

#6283

skraper

Verified Coach NLHE

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 10,242

play like a nit, get lucky

01-28-2010 , 09:45 AM

#6284

phenomenal

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,524

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ligic

Mistake was the 3bet to begin with. Went with the autopilot again. I am ahead of their range = 3bet. Did not think further than that. Then I got 4bet and I was fked. No good options from there on.

01-28-2010 , 09:48 AM

#6285

lima

veteran

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 2,766

Quote:

Originally Posted by phenomenal

No shame squeezing and folding JJ pf !

CO tag. BTN lp.

But isn't it bit exploitable 5handed ? ZOMG LOL WTF?!!??! No one is exploiting jack. GTFO! You have absolutely no reason to think that he is 4betting light ever. After you do it is an eazy shove. Sqz is ok btn might peal light. Flatting is good too. On good flops just start leading and expect co to play honestly. And lp to do what he does best. Call. PF flat might be better cause you really don't want btn to fold pf. By 3betting you are now bluffing vs the competent player and just hoping that btn calls.

Boss $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

SB: $16.30
Hero (BB): $50.00
UTG: $15.50
CO: $98.05
BTN: $44.21

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with J

1 fold, CO raises to $1.50, BTN calls $1.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $6.25, CO raises to $15

squeezing JJ and folding to a 4bet = burning money

01-28-2010 , 09:48 AM

#6286

phenomenal

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,524

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clar17y

But as played it went 3bet - 4bet which wasn't a shove.

You aren't calling that but it suggests that he could 4bet/fold. If this person is remotely capable of 4bet/folding then we should definitely shove over that 4bet...

Remotely capable is not good enough. I need any data that suggest that. At this point I have to assume that he is only 4betting for value.

01-28-2010 , 10:23 AM

#6287

fattony7891

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 6,158

Quote:

Originally Posted by phenomenal

Remotely capable is not good enough. I need any data that suggest that. At this point I have to assume that he is only 4betting for value.

dont squeeze/fold any value hands like AQ/JJ, its just bad

01-28-2010 , 10:55 AM

#6288

LordDante

veteran

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,158

so much time has passed since i seen one of the Spanish SS in fulltilt.
anyone knows if they play the short tables?

01-28-2010 , 11:10 AM

#6289

Ligic

banned

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,777

Quote:

Originally Posted by phenomenal

Mistake was the 3bet to begin with. Went with the autopilot again. I am ahead of their range = 3bet. Did not think further than that. Then I got 4bet and I was fked. No good options from there on.

At that point you just shove and remember to watch the action closer from then on.

01-28-2010 , 11:11 AM

#6290

lumileijona

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 8,020

Nice cold call of 3 bet OOP!

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.20(BB) IPoker
SB ($29.69)
BB ($21.88)
UTG ($20)
UTG+1 ($20)
Hero ($29.20)
BTN ($11.69)

Dealt to Hero A

fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.80, Hero raises to $2.40, fold, fold, BB calls $2.20, fold

FLOP ($5.70) J

BB checks, Hero bets $3.40, BB raises to $19.48 (AI), Hero calls $16.08

TURN ($44.66) J

RIVER ($44.66) J

BB shows J

(Pre 21%, Flop 87.8%, Turn 95.5%)

Hero shows A

(Pre 79%, Flop 12.2%, Turn 4.5%)

BB wins $42.43

01-28-2010 , 11:49 AM

#6291

isac1984

adept

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,031

haha lol. Betfair is so amazing.

NL20$ Just saw 2 guys preflop battle it up until one of them 10 bet the other

I threw my jacks after the 4 bet. This other guy went along for 10bet with pocket three´s.

LOL

01-28-2010 , 12:44 PM

#6292

VithelTone

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 5,676

F*** POKER !!!!!!! stupid fish...

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

SB: $21.14
BB: $28.74
UTG: $27.04
MP: $25.00
CO: $8.56
Hero (BTN): $38.24

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with A

UTG calls $0.25, MP raises to $1.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $3.25, 2 folds, UTG calls $3, MP raises to $12.12, Hero raises to $38.24 all in, 1 fold, MP calls $12.88 all in

Flop: ($53.60) 9

Turn: ($53.60) 8

River: ($53.60) 7

Final Pot: $53.60
MP shows T

(a straight, Jack high)
Hero shows A

(two pair, Aces and Sevens)
MP wins $50.92
(Rake: $2.68)

01-28-2010 , 12:56 PM

#6293

Spraggy

Just Plain Nasty

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 9,095

Hands like this tilt me

Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: $10.50
MP: $12.60
CO: $10.15
Hero (BTN): $10.72
SB: $17.67
BB: $17.84

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with A

2 folds, CO raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.75) K

(2 players)
CO bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.55) 2

(2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $0.90, CO calls $0.90

River: ($3.35) 6

(2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: $3.35
CO shows 6

(a pair of Sixes)
Hero shows A

(Ace King high)
CO wins $3.13
(Rake: $0.22)

01-28-2010 , 01:01 PM

#6294

absolutefish

BBV champion

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,826

ok ok ok

I said I'd never play it...

but Rush Poker is jokes.

01-28-2010 , 01:03 PM

#6295

martin9_90

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,586

where are you from, london?

01-28-2010 , 01:06 PM

#6296

fattony7891

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 6,158

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spraggy

2 folds, CO raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.75) K

(2 players)
CO bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.55) 2

(2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $0.90, CO calls $0.90

River: ($3.35) 6

(2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: $3.35
CO shows 6

(a pair of Sixes)
Hero shows A

(Ace King high)
CO wins $3.13
(Rake: $0.22)

Not a fan of the line you took really.

01-28-2010 , 01:09 PM

#6297

RML604

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,438

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spraggy

2 folds, CO raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.75) K

(2 players)
CO bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.55) 2

(2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $0.90, CO calls $0.90

River: ($3.35) 6

(2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: $3.35
CO shows 6

(a pair of Sixes)
Hero shows A

(Ace King high)
CO wins $3.13
(Rake: $0.22)

Anyone 3betting this pre?

01-28-2010 , 01:14 PM

#6298

absolutefish

BBV champion

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7,826

Quote:

Originally Posted by martin9_90

where are you from, london?

was that at me?

if so yes, since you asked.

01-28-2010 , 01:20 PM

#6299

Ligic

banned

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,777

I gotta write an essay about Heart Of Darkness tomorrow.

Is it a good book?

01-28-2010 , 01:23 PM

#6300

fattony7891

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 6,158

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ligic

I gotta write an essay about Heart Of Darkness tomorrow.

Is it a good book?

books, lol

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