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08-17-2010 , 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by jefscott
assuming you weren't just messing around at 10NL for fun....this hand is kind of silly. I mean yeah it's nice that you won at all, but why treat one of the lowest limits like a midstakes training video? I think BBV actually encourages FPS to a point that is detrimental
lol wtf
08-17-2010 , 11:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jefscott
assuming you weren't just messing around at 10NL for fun....this hand is kind of silly. I mean yeah it's nice that you won at all, but why treat one of the lowest limits like a midstakes training video? I think BBV actually encourages FPS to a point that is detrimental
Go away.
08-17-2010 , 11:17 AM
just came back from a wiiiiiiiiild costume party 180km away from here..

40k people drunk, sluttiest girls ever asdhsadhasdhsakdhasdasd ill be def back next year, vithel you should go too!

about volume bet, im around 10k hands so unless something epic happens ill be the first donator



edit: i said that id be playing 50NL but had some bad sess and ill be moving down to 25NL. Im allowed to play there for the bet right?
08-17-2010 , 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Decon50
no doubt, i don't mind so much since i've been crushing the live 2/3 game this month.

live hand of the day: i get 33 in sb, action goes call, call, call, call, BTN raises to 20, i call, call, call, call, call.

6 way action, pot is 120, flop is a sweet sweet AK3r. ch, ch, ch, CO shoves for ~100, BTN flats, i shove for ~220, fold, fold, fold, BTN calls. CO has JT, BTN has KQ, and i scoop.
jesus i wish i had a live game close to me

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Originally Posted by kidacao
i said that id be playing 50NL but had some bad sess and ill be moving down to 25NL. Im allowed to play there for the bet right?
yup, the limit you signed up for and the limit one step below are both in play

edit: btw - 40k people all went to a party? wtf? why was it a costume party, is it some sort of south american holiday?

Last edited by benjamin barker; 08-17-2010 at 11:32 AM.
08-17-2010 , 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Spraggy
Sorry to have upset you jef. What is your point?
My point, if I was trying to make one, is that I think this is a hand which is reflective of how FPS actually hurts people from beating microstakes for a decent winrate. (Of course that may be an overgeneralization - someone could have played nitty ABC poker for 100,000 hands, and then made one bluff like this that ends up in the forums.)

Here is my thought process. I see you with several thousand posts and noticed you post lot (though admittedly my time on 2+2 is very low the last 6 months, so I could be wrong). I assume you're a pretty experienced player. Probably played at least several hundred thousand hands over several years. I also assume as a basic fact a player like you has more talent/skill then 90% of the players at the microstakes (partly based just on your experience). So then I'm wondering why are you still at .05/.10? And then I see a hand like this and I am reminded of the phenomenon in which players who could, by their skill, easily beat microstakes for a decent winrate but are unable to for a number of reasons - an important one being FPS and outleveling themselves from playing the ABC that is needed to crush .5/.10. I think this kind of thing happens to a LOT of good players.

I was thinking this was a relevant point since my general understanding of the 2+2 forums, especially the microstakes part, was to help people get better. Of course that point is slightly less relevant given this is BBV. Also, for all I know you play like 2/4 and 3/6 regularly and were just dicking around. If that were the case, I do think the overall point would be the same, but it probably just wouldn't apply as specifically to you.

Last edited by jefscott; 08-17-2010 at 11:53 AM.
08-17-2010 , 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by jefscott
I know you play like 2/4 and 3/6 regularly and were just messing around.
This is true.
08-17-2010 , 11:56 AM
Baller itt
08-17-2010 , 11:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jefscott
My point, if I was trying to make one, is that I think this is a hand which is reflective of how FPS actually hurts people from beating microstakes for a decent winrate. (Of course that may be an overgeneralization - someone could have played nitty ABC poker for 100,000 hands, and then made one bluff like this that ends up in the forums.)

Here is my thought process. I see you with several thousand posts and noticed you post lot (though admittedly my time on 2+2 is very low the last 6 months, so I could be wrong). I assume you're a pretty experienced player. Probably played at least several hundred thousand hands over several years. I also assume as a basic fact a player like you has more talent/skill then 90% of the players at the microstakes (partly based just on your experience). So then I'm wondering why are you still at .05/.10? And then I see a hand like this and I am reminded of the phenomenon in which players who could, by their skill, easily beat microstakes for a decent winrate but are unable to for a number of reasons - an important one being FPS and outleveling themselves from playing the ABC that is needed to crush .5/.10. I think this kind of thing happens to a LOT of good players.

I was thinking this was a relevant point since my general understanding of the 2+2 forums, especially the microstakes part, was to help people get better. Of course that point is slightly less relevant given this is BBV. Also, for all I know you play like 2/4 and 3/6 regularly and were just dicking around. If that were the case, I do think the overall point would be the same, but it probably just wouldn't apply as specifically to you.
You are overdoing it buddy.
08-17-2010 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Swiiftx
You are overdoing it buddy.
perhaps. But I don't think that necessarily invalidates the point. What are your thoughts on the subject Swifftx?
08-17-2010 , 12:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jefscott
My point, if I was trying to make one, is that I think this is a hand which is reflective of how FPS actually hurts people from beating microstakes for a decent winrate. (Of course that may be an overgeneralization - someone could have played nitty ABC poker for 100,000 hands, and then made one bluff like this that ends up in the forums.)

Here is my thought process. I see you with several thousand posts and noticed you post lot (though admittedly my time on 2+2 is very low the last 6 months, so I could be wrong). I assume you're a pretty experienced player. Probably played at least several hundred thousand hands over several years. I also assume as a basic fact a player like you has more talent/skill then 90% of the players at the microstakes (partly based just on your experience). So then I'm wondering why are you still at .05/.10? And then I see a hand like this and I am reminded of the phenomenon in which players who could, by their skill, easily beat microstakes for a decent winrate but are unable to for a number of reasons - an important one being FPS and outleveling themselves from playing the ABC that is needed to crush .5/.10. I think this kind of thing happens to a LOT of good players.

I was thinking this was a relevant point since my general understanding of the 2+2 forums, especially the microstakes part, was to help people get better. Of course that point is slightly less relevant given this is BBV. Also, for all I know you play like 2/4 and 3/6 regularly and were just dicking around. If that were the case, I do think the overall point would be the same, but it probably just wouldn't apply as specifically to you.
what is this? such a weird post to see itt
08-17-2010 , 12:06 PM
Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP: $50.00
CO: $70.45
BTN: $50.50
SB: $53.50
Hero (BB): $91.35
UTG: $76.30

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with A 7
4 folds, SB raises to $1.50, Hero calls $1

Flop: ($3.00) 5 3 7 (2 players)
SB bets $2, Hero raises to $6, SB calls $4

Turn: ($15.00) T (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $10, SB raises to $46 all in, Hero calls $36

River: ($107.00) 9 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $107.00
SB shows J 8 (a flush, Jack high)
Hero shows A 7 (a pair of Sevens)
SB wins $104.00
(Rake: $3.00)
08-17-2010 , 12:09 PM
We have ulterior motives in BBV obv.
08-17-2010 , 12:10 PM
I don't understand your point. I downswonged at 25nl. So I played laggy style at 10nl deliberately putting myself in awkward spots to practice hand reading/ assigning ranges etc...

It was a confidence builder and fwiw everything about that hand is plus ev. Preflop. Flop. Turn. River. All are good.
08-17-2010 , 12:59 PM
hi guys

so i slept it off

and its time to crush right?

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also, benj crushes 1/2 and 2/4
08-17-2010 , 01:08 PM
08-17-2010 , 01:14 PM
If you havent already saw this its getting epic, http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19...tudent-854393/
08-17-2010 , 01:17 PM
lol, first big hand QQ < QQ all in pre. fml

Last edited by GOONERCAM; 08-17-2010 at 01:26 PM.
08-17-2010 , 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by GOONERCAM
lol, first big hand QQ > QQ all in pre. fml
good start =] gl yo
08-17-2010 , 01:26 PM
i meant < lol
08-17-2010 , 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by GOONERCAM
i meant < lol
lol i know i was being sarcastic =/ the FML part gave it away. but the gl was for reala
08-17-2010 , 01:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Batman1421
If you havent already saw this its getting epic, http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19...tudent-854393/
lolololol

Spoiler:
although who doesn't want a poker sex slave maid?
08-17-2010 , 01:43 PM
i been trying to stack this one fish for the last 5 days. uber spewy. usually magically has 5bi every time. however only had 80bb however ill take it lol

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.10(BB) Absolute
SB ($20.73)
BB ($11.50)
Hero ($10)
UTG+1 ($11.60)
CO ($8.51)
BTN ($50.68)

Dealt to Hero K K

Hero raises to $0.30, fold, CO raises to $1, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $2.50, CO calls $1.50

FLOP ($5.15) 5 T K

Hero bets $2.60, CO raises to $6.01 (AI), Hero calls $3.41

TURN ($17.17) 5 T K T

RIVER ($17.17) 5 T K T Q

CO shows A T
(Pre 33%, Flop 5.6%, Turn 2.3%)

Hero shows K K
(Pre 67%, Flop 94.4%, Turn 97.7%)

Hero wins $16.32
08-17-2010 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Megloooo
is there any way of filtering results by the day of the week in HEM?

ive heard this a few times and wanna see what days ive made significantly more/less than other days.
Can't rememeber if it's default.

Search for cygnes hem reports
08-17-2010 , 02:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jefscott
I also assume as a basic fact a player like you has more talent/skill then 90% of the players at the microstakes (partly based just on your experience).
Confirmed.
08-17-2010 , 02:30 PM
23/15 doesnt respect my raises


Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: $50.00
Hero (BTN): $51.10
SB: $103.00
BB: $61.55
UTG: $51.85
MP: $65.20

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with A A
3 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, SB raises to $5, 1 fold, Hero requests TIME, Hero raises to $11.50, SB raises to $103 all in, Hero calls $39.60 all in

Flop: ($102.70) 9 K K

Turn: ($102.70) 3

River: ($102.70) 6

Final Pot: $102.70
Hero shows A A (two pair, Aces and Kings)
SB shows Q 5 (a pair of Kings)
Hero wins $99.70
(Rake: $3.00)

      
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