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08-19-2010 , 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by indianboy44
nope. fake title ldo
haha. Add in your SN and i figured i didnt even have to look.
08-19-2010 , 03:39 PM
Meh. I'll make one and hopefully you guys can let me know if I've been doing anything wrong.
08-19-2010 , 03:44 PM
STRATEGY POST

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Originally Posted by Spraggy
If I made a video of all my big winning and losing hands this month. Commented on my thought processes etc.... would enough of you guys take a look at it for me?
doing the right thing:

Most uNL players have trouble transitioning into a higher limit or beating any limit not because of the lack of knowledge or lack of moves. Most everyone has watched numerous videos of poker greats and not so greats and implemented the light3, 4bets. the squeeze play, the check raise, etc...
So you should ask yourself, if I have the same arsenal as those guys then why am I loosing money still, or why am I not playing those stakes.
Well the answer in a lot of cases (from my experience with uNL guys) comes along the lines of when you are using certain plays and why you are using them. It's not the line that you took that was wrong in itself, but the reasoning behind it, therefor you have a wall which you are repainting instead of climbing it or going around it.
Videos with HH review will give you only so much. If someone knows your game ai. has sweat you numerous times and knows how you do certain things in the flow of the game, could possibly give you advice on certain things. Others will only see the big leaks, or I will go as far that they will see certain stuff that you will try implementing, but then some other part of your game will fall down.
Analyzing hands in a vacuum is really useful but could also be just making you run in circles.
Example: some people, like myself have huge dicks, therefor our redline goes waaaay up. There is also guys with obviously little penises, that have a breakeven or loosing redline but still beat the game. None of them is better than the other. Poker is a game of flow and adjustment, so just because someone will tell you that he would raise QJ or QT, doesnt mean that it will also fit in your game very well. This is why you should always be looking for the reasons in videos why he is making those plays and after those videos on DC, leggo, CR, bluefire or whatever else you watch, sit down, and think about it for a second. Break down the hand like a chessmatch.

in chess people think couple streets ahead, you should do this in poker, but how?!

well. build a yes no questionary:


such as: am I in position? yes/no. do i wanna fold, do i wanna call, do i wanna 3b. if I 3b and he 4b I fold. if he calls I am in deep crap, therefor I need to call or fold. He is really aggro, my hand cant flop top pair hands, and wont like turn cards, therefor I should not call, so i shall fold.

take this to the next level:
If I bet flop and get raised and he bets turn i will fold, therefor i am push fold decision right here, otherwise burning money. so lower variance says, just check and fire last 2 streets. as he is bluffy on flop but not turn and river.
make plans for turn and river cards ahead, what turns will you barrel, which you wont. great example of this:

hero is BTN with A6o. folds to us, we open, we get flat BB loose passive fish in BB. flop is T78monotone. we have no fdraw.
if we bet, and he calls, turn is a brick2, we have to bet again, otherwise he will donk any river and random worse hands will win against us that were drawing. so we bet, but river is a brick also and he checks again, now we have to bet to fold out better, that only had a fdraw. but sometimes its a pair plus draw so we still get called.

therefor if we bet flop we have to bet turn and bet river and still wont get many folds a lot of the time. so if we raised to 3x pre and there was 6,5 in the pot on the flop, we bet 5, 11, 24 accordingly, we are assuming on flop that we are going to be risking 41big blinds to win 6,5 that's in the pot and still wont many times... profitable??! hell no. so we shall check back that board.

cbetting tendencies as that example showed you are basically just breaking down all possibilities a couple streets and each possible move and card ahead, and taking the most profitable route, or the one we believe will work in certain situations. (not talking about balancing here obv)

so with such a video in my estimation you might accomplish a lot, but probably not the best way to improve your game as of right now.

Last edited by udbrky; 08-19-2010 at 05:42 PM.
08-19-2010 , 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by sharkbaitOHH
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08-19-2010 , 03:49 PM
Thanks very much for taking the time to write a lengthy response. Certainly some food for thought
08-19-2010 , 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Spraggy
Thanks very much for taking the time to write a lengthy response. Certainly some food for thought
kind of a mess, tried my best. might type it up nicely sometime, but right now I just chalked it up as it came to my mind. those that have talked to me know that i ma kinda all over the place. sorry

hope it makes sense tho
08-19-2010 , 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by bigacsiga
Example: some people, like myself have huge dicks, therefor our redline goes waaaay up. There is also guys with obviously little penises, that have a breakeven or loosing redline but still beat the game.
on behalf of a vacationing Subs, FU sir!
08-19-2010 , 03:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spraggy
If I made a video of all my big winning and losing hands this month. Commented on my thought processes etc.... would enough of you guys take a look at it for me?
seems like a good idea. but make sure you're not just looking at big/small pots, since you could have leaks in medium sized pots as well. maybe you could do a db review with someone and either make that a vid (like skraper and barker did with 3 betting) or have them help you pick out hands you should use for the video. just a suggestion.
08-19-2010 , 04:01 PM
Ye I've been trying to get someone to go over my small databse of like 20k hands just to boost my confidence but it's quite a big job and considering I'm an ******* I don't think a lot of people are that willing to help me.

edit: comments appreciated..Spraggy runs a bluff!
08-19-2010 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian J
on behalf of a vacationing Subs, FU sir!
lets hope he is getting his tiny D wet in that case
08-19-2010 , 04:19 PM
fu calling my triple barrel with second pair no kicker
08-19-2010 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Spraggy
Ye I've been trying to get someone to go over my small databse of like 20k hands just to boost my confidence but it's quite a big job and considering I'm an ******* I don't think a lot of people are that willing to help me.

edit: comments appreciated..Spraggy runs a bluff!
i'd be willing to look at it at some point if you want. not sure how helpful i could be, though.
08-19-2010 , 04:52 PM
bigacsiga, that was a sick post about planning hands and taking the most profitable line.
08-19-2010 , 04:56 PM
I'm folding KK to this guy next time he 4bets me, especially if we have 200bb stacks again. I am pretty sure a guy who makes a 4bet, 5bet, or 6bet or higher 2 times in 4K hands is just always going to have KK+ or tighter.

08-19-2010 , 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Dumuzi
would posting 25nl graphs in a play money forum be about as appropriate as guys who post 200nl graphs in a MICRO STAKES forum?
there's a playmoney forum?
08-19-2010 , 05:01 PM
hands like this make me smile


Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN/SB: $56.30
Hero (BB): $54.50

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with 7 5
BTN/SB calls $0.25, Hero checks

Flop: ($1.00) A Q 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB checks

Turn: ($1.00) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB checks

River: ($1.00) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets $1, Hero raises to $11, BTN/SB raises to $21, Hero raises to $54 all in, BTN/SB calls $33

Final Pot: $109.00
BTN/SB shows Q Q (three of a kind, Queens)
Hero shows 7 5 (a straight, Four to Eight)
Hero wins $108.50
(Rake: $0.50)
08-19-2010 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Spraggy
If I made a video of all my big winning and losing hands this month. Commented on my thought processes etc.... would enough of you guys take a look at it for me?
i def would unless its too long
08-19-2010 , 05:03 PM
lol
08-19-2010 , 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Ligic
there's a playmoney forum?
Yes it goes something like this:

I raised to 6x UTG with QQ and BTN shoved all in for One Mirrion Dollars! Do I fold?
08-19-2010 , 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Ligic
there's a playmoney forum?
Fish have forums
08-19-2010 , 05:04 PM
Opened my fridge to discover I have snack packs!

Buzzed grocery shopping is the tits!
08-19-2010 , 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by udbrky
these are gold lol

I was playing with my buddies in our usual cheap friendly game. ten & twenty cent blinds, buy-ins at 5 bucks. I had increased my chip stack to about $15 at this time. I'm sitting to the left of the dealer in the small blind. It's 5 handed. I get dealt 5c 4s. Everyone folds to the dealer, who raise to a dollar total. It's just one on one, so I have put him on high cards, and I call with my pot odds. I mean, the next three cards are gonna hit for one of us, plus, another 90 cents isn't nothing to my stack, which was the big stack at the time.

The flop comes 4d 5h 6h. He goes all in, an attempt to take the pot down, or he put me on high cards too. I still have him on high cards and I call, it's a 6 dollar or so bet. He turns over Big Slick of Clubs. I win the hand, and he was pissed that I called, and called me "garbage".

Me personally, I thought it was just plain me outplaying him.
08-19-2010 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by bigacsiga
Example: some people, like myself have huge dicks, therefor our redline goes waaaay up.
I lol'd.

Edit: udbrky, that thread is awesome.
08-19-2010 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by udbrky
lol pretty funny...
08-19-2010 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by VEfreak
bigacsiga, that was a sick post about planning hands and taking the most profitable line.
thank you

      
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