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10-08-2012 , 08:15 AM
does anyone know if it is possible to import HEM notes into Pokerstars notes????

I know you can do it the other way round, but I'd like to start taking my notes in pokerstars as opposed to HEM as i've been doing in the past
10-08-2012 , 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by pokerbiker
as if this would happen ever. when the fish leaves, the table breaks.

if he wants to keep tables going, it makes much more sense to start tables rather than posting when the fish left. on latter you will pay the last blind 90% of the time.

his behavior is understandable and ok. not that i feel the need to defend him, but your suggestion is far away from reality.
Yeah this is correct.

I mean I feel like Stars pros should be looking for ways to "give back" in some spots, but posting a ton of extra bb's throughout each session isn't the way to do it.
10-08-2012 , 05:11 PM
Regarding innerpsy. He is one of the few who never grimmed. A lot of those bragging about grimmers have grimmed me.

Especially during quiet hours innerpsy does a great job starting tables. Keep it up.

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Originally Posted by Klakteuh
Great 5/10 lobby

As for table starting incentive. Like TCorbin said, an incentive itself is to be sure to get a seat on the table when it becomes 6handed. However with clustered lobbies likes on this pic and all the table seating software out there. That incentive is not there anymore. For me, starting tables during peak is a negative incentive and I have stopped doing it. Part of the reason is clustered lobbies.

The best adjustment to make would be to make table starting so you are not losing anything by starting tables. Couple of general suggestions:
* You dont risk getting grimmed (Must play even number of games when HU, both tables are breaking and starting. Then the button for one of the 2 players who was starting the table.)
* Less empty tables in the lobby (Not missing when tables are going 6handed).
* Faster updating lobby or updating with out needing a click.
* Crack down on table seating software.
* Remove sitting out players on tables when no hands are being dealt.
* Remove players sitting out after x amount of minuttes.
* Keep on cracking down on campers.
* Combine all this and bam, we got incentive to start tables. Now we got the incentive back that we can actually get a seat.

And no. I do not like the idea of cracking down on people who decline action when starting tables. I deserve the right to decline people join only to play HU. And this has happened a lot lately. Because HU is kind of dead these days. I yes, I do start a lot of tables with other regs.
10-08-2012 , 08:18 PM
given the amount of moaning itt i would expect there to be loads of tbl starters, polite and respectful players but i could probably count them on one hand. This topic has been done to death for about 5years, ppl don't have much incentive to behave in a respectful manner because online pokers anonymity, ce la vie.
10-08-2012 , 09:20 PM
Could a possible way to reduce bumhunting/increase table starting (without stars having to provide extra $ incentive) be a process of forced seating? so that players are sat in some regimented order?

The 2 players who start the table be sat next to each other, the next guy gets sat direct to their right, and the next direct to his right etc etc. Extreme bumhunters who refuse to play without a rec player sat never get a seat ip on the fish and other lesser bumhunters would be encouraged to sit and play at tables they may not have otherwise, due to the chance of a rec player being sat to their right? (and obv the hu players automatically get position on the fish if he joins a table that is currently hu).

Not really sure if this is viable and am sure there are some obvious faults i'm failing to think of at present. But this should also negate some of the effects of scripters and the predatory feeling of poker to fish. Any super hard table selector or someone using a script to sit a nano second after the fish does is going to get snap sat oop (which kind of defies to point to their scripts in the first place) but obv doesn't stop them from sitting the table in the first place.

Last edited by pontylad; 10-08-2012 at 09:29 PM.
10-08-2012 , 10:00 PM
BTW there's this really shady guy at 3/6 and 5/10, he NEVER plays but is always sitting out at multiple tables, I think he is laundering money or something, I contacted Stars about it. His SN is kid_canada or something.
10-08-2012 , 10:29 PM
^lol.

Regarding innerpsy, he's definitely a huge grimmer when the table breaks but so is 99% of MSNL so who cares. Not really a scummy guy, just hugely annoying.

Quote:
Originally Posted by pontylad
Could a possible way to reduce bumhunting/increase table starting (without stars having to provide extra $ incentive) be a process of forced seating? so that players are sat in some regimented order?

The 2 players who start the table be sat next to each other, the next guy gets sat direct to their right, and the next direct to his right etc etc. Extreme bumhunters who refuse to play without a rec player sat never get a seat ip on the fish and other lesser bumhunters would be encouraged to sit and play at tables they may not have otherwise, due to the chance of a rec player being sat to their right? (and obv the hu players automatically get position on the fish if he joins a table that is currently hu).

Not really sure if this is viable and am sure there are some obvious faults i'm failing to think of at present. But this should also negate some of the effects of scripters and the predatory feeling of poker to fish. Any super hard table selector or someone using a script to sit a nano second after the fish does is going to get snap sat oop (which kind of defies to point to their scripts in the first place) but obv doesn't stop them from sitting the table in the first place.
I can see the lobby being even worse than the HU lobby if it were like that.

I think completely random seating for all people who join a table [besides the initial 2 players] would somewhat take away the predatory feeling for fish, and no reg will have an overall EV advantage over another in seat selection. Obv, this would make regular table poker feel more closer to zoom but what can you do, eh?
10-09-2012 , 12:14 AM
Seems like stars limiting the number of tables that arent currently running at 6 max would make the lobby cleaner. Say 3-5 per limit.

It would also give the table starters more incentive to start games as 1 person could hold down an entire lobby and get in all new games that run and in order to have equal opportunity you would need to just join the games and play
10-09-2012 , 01:55 AM
maybe make it so only one new 6max game of each limit can be started at a time until 3 players are playing
10-09-2012 , 04:38 AM
^ would give a lot of incentive to start tables as you'd never miss a good game
10-09-2012 , 05:28 AM
i think it should definately be more then 1 table that could be started,
some people like to play like 4 hu ones to start tables, potentially even more..
seen c1awviper starting heaps before.. so i think they should be able to play as many as possible
I think the issue is the vast amount of people that will just sit and not play anyone bar a fish, i dont have a issue when people avoid a couple of regs, but if they are only there to start a table with a fish i think its an issue, because then the lobby will just become clogged.. An example is that guy "ThinkPositive" who usually sits on a bunch of empties and doesnt play regs, he then leaves after an orbit after the table becomes more then HU vs the fish
10-09-2012 , 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by aesthetics
maybe make it so only one new 6max game of each limit can be started at a time until 3 players are playing
That would simplify my work a lot
10-09-2012 , 07:36 AM
its completely suicide to reduce the number of open tables.

its not like the HU lobby, but every table less might make the fish click to sit down at another stake.

all of you are arguing against yourselfs.
10-09-2012 , 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by pokerbiker
its completely suicide to reduce the number of open tables.

its not like the HU lobby, but every table less might make the fish click to sit down at another stake.

all of you are arguing against yourselfs.
lol, we could have a big competition to see which stake level can open more empty tables to make it very marginally more likely a fish sits at their limit... or we could reduce the number of tables at all limits, have a cleaner lobby and let the fish play whatever limit he likes. I don't think people are suggesting that they reduce the number of open tables at whatever limit you play and then keep loads of tables at every other limit!
10-09-2012 , 09:44 AM
just give more VPPS/FPPS for tablestarters, thats all we need not all this other stuff an also cap waitlists.
10-09-2012 , 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by alextrev1111
just give more VPPS/FPPS for tablestarters, thats all we need not all this other stuff an also cap waitlists.
yeah, that would be still fantastic. or when waitlist gets above 9, numbers 9-3 will be moved to a new table. this table will break right away. but hell.

i dont think it would be a good idea to move 1-3 to a new table, because then hell will break loose.

also, i dont understand why people go on waitlist with 10players or so. completely ******ed imo. does the guy on number 15 on the waitlist think he will still play vs XYZ? just makes the lobby look stupid
10-09-2012 , 10:33 AM
******ed? Countless times Ive been 15+ on the waitlist and still could sit in with a big fish a couple hours later in my session.
10-09-2012 , 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Alpha 5.20
******ed? Countless times Ive been 15+ on the waitlist and still could sit in with a big fish a couple hours later in my session.
srsly? (i mean that for real)

what "pro" leaves a table with a whale on it? i mean, yeah from time to time you have other obligations, but leaving a game which is massively +EV as pro looks kinda strange. especially when 14 pro's are doing it.
10-09-2012 , 10:42 AM
100% serious, and yes lots of regs leave good tables, happens all the time. And when ure 15th on waiting list and still playing after an hour or 2 most people that were in front of you finished their session in the meantime.
10-09-2012 , 10:48 AM
so yeah capping waitlists at 3 is completely ******ed
10-09-2012 , 10:53 AM
Why even have waiting lists at all? Only looks ******ed in the lobby and ppl would be a lot more likely to actually start tables if they couldnt just jump on a bunch of waiting lists
10-09-2012 , 10:54 AM
ya scrap waitlists imo
10-09-2012 , 10:56 AM
Capping or removing waitlists will just render midstakes into a scripting hellhole.
10-09-2012 , 10:56 AM
no waitlists at all? amazing how propositions in this thread are getting more and more ridiculous everyday...
10-09-2012 , 10:57 AM
no problem with removing waitlists at all.

when you want to play and there is an empty seat, here, sit down and play.

      
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