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05-11-2010 , 06:54 AM
Hey people,

I am doing some more staking/coaching up to 200nl, anyone keen can have a look at my staking thread: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/13...nl-ftp-781120/
05-11-2010 , 09:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GenericP
I have a question for all you NL50 grinders at FTP.
I'm not too familiar how the games play yet, so this hand made me think.
Villain is (probably) a reg running 17/13/2 and with 5.1% 3bet.
Is my play total spew or just standard cooler BvB?

Sorry If I'm asking stupid questions, but I have been playing mainly at Ongame recently and there this is fistpump all-in.

Full Tilt Poker $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 7 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (SB): $86.15
BB: $61.10
UTG: $17.25
UTG+1: $40.65
MP: $46.30
CO: $51.10
BTN: $22.75

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with K A
5 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, BB raises to $6, Hero raises to $86.15, BB calls $55.10 all in

Flop: ($122.20) Q 6 Q

Turn: ($122.20) T

River: ($122.20) Q

Final Pot: $122.20
Hero shows K A
BB shows A A
BB wins $119.20
(Rake: $-22.05)
I think it looks pretty standard altho by shoving rather than making a different sized 4bet expect villain to put you on AK and now call you with TT or JJ whereas a different bet size might fold out TT and JJ
05-11-2010 , 09:36 AM
Can anyone xfer $9 on Stars for $9 on Tilt for me.
Need the xtra $9 to play a medium scoop tonight
05-11-2010 , 10:01 AM
Someone kill me plz
05-11-2010 , 11:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GenericP

Final Pot: $122.20
Hero shows K A
BB shows A A
BB wins $119.20
(Rake: $-22.05)
quite some rake.

I understand now why some players are having such a hard time beating 50NL
05-11-2010 , 11:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ensano
quite some rake.

I understand now why some players are having such a hard time beating 50NL
that is negative rake -- they are giving you money
05-11-2010 , 11:55 AM
That can't possibly be correct. Rake on the hand was $3, no?

Last edited by AnAnonymousCoward; 05-11-2010 at 11:56 AM. Reason: I think that I just leveled myself
05-11-2010 , 12:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AnAnonymousCoward
I think that I just leveled myself
yes you have ...
05-11-2010 , 01:03 PM
Good Lord... Right in the middle of a session and FTP starts to show 'Fold' for damn near evey s/n on each table, covering up each stack. I've been so lucky not to have any real bad FTP issues. Now it's my turn in the crosshairs I guess...
05-11-2010 , 01:17 PM
rush PLO MTTs are fun.
05-11-2010 , 01:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OoLethaLoO
rush PLO MTTs are fun.
pure skill
05-11-2010 , 01:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by funkyj
that is negative rake -- they are giving you money
**** ... didn't notice that I def need to play there
05-11-2010 , 01:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by EN09
Good Lord... Right in the middle of a session and FTP starts to show 'Fold' for damn near evey s/n on each table, covering up each stack. I've been so lucky not to have any real bad FTP issues. Now it's my turn in the crosshairs I guess...
yea this happens to me once and a while. tilts me the most when im trying to figure out how much to bet and i cant see his stack size.
05-11-2010 , 01:53 PM
**** me. I ran a system update this morning and now my DB is corrupted.
05-11-2010 , 01:59 PM
Hi guys,

I normally play on Stars,

but ZOMG Rush NL25 is so much fun!!
05-11-2010 , 02:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TJ Eckleburg12
Hi guys,

I normally play on Stars,

but ZOMG Rush NL25 is so much fun!!
But stay away from the normal tables, everyone is solid
05-11-2010 , 02:04 PM
haha I haven't even tried the regular tables yet, rush is like crack
05-11-2010 , 02:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TJ Eckleburg12
haha I haven't even tried the regular tables yet, rush is like crack
The end result is largely the same too.
05-11-2010 , 02:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TJ Eckleburg12
Hi guys,

I normally play on Stars,

but ZOMG Rush NL25 is so much fun!!
it is totally tilting with all those ubernitty ****heads
05-11-2010 , 02:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Equus asinus
The end result is largely the same too.
with 75k hands of Rush I feel like I have a feel for my fellow regs and certainly have a decent sample on some of them (0.5k to 1.5k hands). With these players there is continuity and metagame IMO.
05-11-2010 , 04:28 PM
So i hit my stop loss for the day, and was closing down all of my tables, when i get to the last table...At this point i had just made one of the worst hero calls of the year, and was kind of tilted...i had thought of open shoving just to get it over with, glad i didn't


Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: $99.25
UTG+1: $111.65
UTG+2: $100.00
Hero (MP1): $109.85
MP2: $100.00
CO: $40.00
BTN: $91.00
SB: $121.25
BB: $192.60

CO posts a big blind ($1)

Pre Flop: ($2.50) Hero is MP1 with A A
3 folds, Hero requests TIME, Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, CO calls $3, BTN calls $4, 1 fold, BB raises to $18, Hero requests TIME, Hero calls $14, CO calls $14, BTN raises to $91 all in, BB raises to $192.60 all in, Hero calls $91.85 all in, CO calls $22 all in

Flop: ($351.20) J 8 J

Turn: ($351.20) 3

River: ($351.20) T

Final Pot: $351.20
Hero shows A A (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
CO shows 5 7 (a pair of Jacks)
BTN shows K K (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
BB shows Q Q (two pair, Queens and Jacks)
Hero wins $37.70
Hero wins $153.00
Hero wins $157.50
(Rake: $3.00)

Spoiler:
05-11-2010 , 04:30 PM
grats to the pot but AA plays actually pretty bad in 4w pots btw ;(
05-11-2010 , 04:32 PM
...so you're saying if you had the chance, you would have rather only been all-in with KK, and not KK+QQ 3way, and especially didn't want to get 4way all-in with KK+QQ+75dd?

Lets assume everyone has $100 to make this easier


equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 50.533% 50.47% 00.06% 548103 687.00 { AcAs }
Hand 1: 16.297% 16.23% 00.06% 176302 687.00 { KdKs }
Hand 2: 15.187% 15.12% 00.06% 164242 687.00 { QdQh }
Hand 3: 17.983% 17.92% 00.06% 194613 687.00 { 7d5d }

50.5% of $400.00=$202-100=+$102

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 66.871% 66.74% 00.13% 914818 1816.33 { AcAs }
Hand 1: 17.438% 17.31% 00.13% 237214 1816.33 { KdKs }
Hand 2: 15.691% 15.56% 00.13% 213273 1816.33 { QdQh }

66.87% of $300.00=$200.61-100=+$100.61

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 81.946% 81.71% 00.23% 1399204 3961.50 { AcAs }
Hand 1: 18.054% 17.82% 00.23% 305177 3961.50 { KdKs }

81.94% of $200.00=$163.88-100=+$63.88

I actually think it's interesting what adding 75ss into the mix does to our equity, and the EV of this hand. Didn't think it'd make THAT much of a difference

P.S. I'm kind of an equity roob, is what i'm doing correct?

Last edited by springsteen87; 05-11-2010 at 04:38 PM.
05-11-2010 , 04:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by springsteen87
...so you're saying if you had the chance, you would have rather only been all-in with KK, and not KK+QQ 3way, and especially didn't want to get 4way all-in with KK+QQ+75dd?
cant argue with that but it also is a little results oriented. you could also be against AK, TT, 75s and win nothing but a c/f on the flop or be way behind when you would at least get one stack allin pre.
05-11-2010 , 04:45 PM
I'm starting a prop bet... get in and get better than 100:1 odds..

When will Ensano quit

      
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