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03-15-2010 , 09:18 AM

#4601

Choix003

journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 205

Quote:

Originally Posted by luka allen

Sorry guys, I finished my 8k hands.

I used the sessions tab to show that all the hands were played during this "waking period".

gg guys

Congrats on a successful waking period. I'm not too sad I have to miss out on your money, seems you'd put it to better use than I would.

03-15-2010 , 09:22 AM

#4602

Mista Live

adept

Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,120

One of my friends is into american football, he gets me to watch superbowl every year. It's ok, but just not my thing. Football is almost a religion in England.

I think if USA consistently do well in the competitions, it'll help the game a lot in your country. But i guess it's never going to be as big as your other main sports.

03-15-2010 , 09:36 AM

#4603

brocksavage1

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 12,587

Quote:

Originally Posted by luka allen

Sorry guys, I finished my 8k hands.

I used the sessions tab to show that all the hands were played during this "waking period".

gg guys

Damn kid, you're playing well!

03-15-2010 , 09:48 AM

#4604

El Nino 1

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 4,018

Quote:

Originally Posted by HappyPixel

brits ITT

we are stealing this thread... with the cunning use of flags!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYeFcSq7Mxg

Thats one of the funniest videos ive seen, its 8am and im laughing my ass off watching it. Good to see HP stop by.

We swapping %'s in the miniFTOPs ME ? We were so close last time

03-15-2010 , 09:54 AM

#4605

TimTamBiscuit

veteran

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,134

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mista Live

Football!!! Foot-kicks-ball = Football!! LOL

I used to work with an american and correct him about American Football, saying it's Handball!

Or Rugby with pads.. :P

I hope Becks still flies with the team as a mentor, not as part of the squad now though. There's things some of the younger players can learn from him, especially Walcott, Lennon and SWP where crossing the ball is concerned.

Come on England!!

American Football = Rugby for girls who need to wear protection

Real men don't eat quiche and they also want to get injured!

03-15-2010 , 09:54 AM

#4606

HappyPixel

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,586

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Nino 1

Thats one of the funniest videos ive seen, its 8am and im laughing my ass off watching it. Good to see HP stop by.

We swapping %'s in the miniFTOPs ME ? We were so close last time

ah I forgot about miniftops, when is the ME?

03-15-2010 , 10:00 AM

#4607

DDAWD

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Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,879

How close did you guys get in the last mFTOPSME?

03-15-2010 , 10:19 AM

#4608

toedder

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Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 4,915

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDAWD

I do have to admit, I watched a lot of soccer last summer and once football season rolled around, it just seemed so slow. I really got accustomed to constant action and football just seemed relatively boring. It's amazing how little actual playing there is in football. 60 minutes of game time and most of that is the game clock running in between plays. I think if you put all the plays in football, from snap to whistle and got rid of all the stoppages and huddles, you could show an entire game in like ten minutes. It's pretty ridiculous actually, and this is coming from a big football fan.

I think a lot of the US aversion to soccer is more inertia than anything. They just didn't grow up with it. It's like how NFL Europe failed. Plus, it's really hard to advertise during a soccer game, so I don't see a corporate push forming behind it.

I get kind of confused, when people call football soccer and handegg football. But you are spot on. I only watched very little handegg. But what I watched made me laugh about people saying that football is boring or that nothing happens in football. Really, it only comes from understanding the game. The more you understand football, the less you will feel like nothing happens over 90 minutes. And I guess the more you understand handegg, the less it will seem like a huge long break, intersected by some seconds of armed crowds running over a field and throwing a big egg around.

03-15-2010 , 10:43 AM

#4609

Choix003

journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 205

Quote:

Originally Posted by toedder

I get kind of confused, when people call football soccer and handegg football. But you are spot on. I only watched very little handegg. But what I watched made me laugh about people saying that football is boring or that nothing happens in football. Really, it only comes from understanding the game. The more you understand football, the less you will feel like nothing happens over 90 minutes. And I guess the more you understand handegg, the less it will seem like a huge long break, intersected by some seconds of armed crowds running over a field and throwing a big egg around.

I think its like this about any sport. Many people I know think baseball is boring and slow. But I have spent a good portion of my 26 years practicing, playing, studying, watching, coaching, fantasy drafting, and loving baseball. What feels boring to them is a 6-month long strategy session to me.

03-15-2010 , 11:58 AM

#4610

HappyPixel

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Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,586

quick line check, vs 23/15, 8% 3bet over decent sample, no history

am I FPSing?

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP1: $51.55
MP2: $96.30
CO: $81.15
Hero (BTN): $100.00
SB: $100.00
BB: $118.15
UTG: $100.00
UTG+1: $123.60

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN with A

A

1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1, 2 folds, CO calls $1, Hero raises to $6, SB raises to $18, 3 folds, Hero calls $12

Flop: ($39.00) 3

8

T

(2 players)
SB bets $20, Hero calls $20

Turn: ($79.00) 5

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $24

03-15-2010 , 11:58 AM

#4611

SammyG-SD

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Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 12,600

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimTamBiscuit

American Football = Rugby for girls who need to wear protection

Real men don't eat quiche and they also want to get injured!

I have played both American and Rugby...and I will say the violence in American Football is far greater than Rugby.

Don't get me wrong, Rugby is a tough, tough sport. But in American Football there is soo much more hitting than Rugby, and the fact that the "protection" allows people to turn themselves into weapons add a complete different dimension.

In Rugby matches, I worried about breaking my nose/eye socket. In American Football I worried about being paralyzed.

03-15-2010 , 12:02 PM

#4612

ready 2 win

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 4,061

Quote:

Originally Posted by HappyPixel

quick line check, vs 23/15, 8% 3bet over decent sample, no history

am I FPSing?

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP1: $51.55
MP2: $96.30
CO: $81.15
Hero (BTN): $100.00
SB: $100.00
BB: $118.15
UTG: $100.00
UTG+1: $123.60

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN with A

A

1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1, 2 folds, CO calls $1, Hero raises to $6, SB raises to $18, 3 folds, Hero calls $12

Flop: ($39.00) 3

8

T

(2 players)
SB bets $20, Hero calls $20

Turn: ($79.00) 5

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $24

Why do you take this line pre and on the flop? Srsly question, I am just a nobb and would 4bet pre...

Did you hope he will barrel himself off and you planned to call down on a good board?

03-15-2010 , 12:11 PM

#4613

HappyPixel

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Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,586

Yeah I figured if I 4b pre he is folding like 80%+ of the time because his 3b range is so wide here (probs 12-15% of all hands), whereas this way I probs get at least a cbet out of him

But it's not a line I take that often so I wanted a line check... also how's my turn bet?

03-15-2010 , 12:18 PM

#4614

brocksavage1

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 12,587

Quote:

Originally Posted by HappyPixel

quick line check, vs 23/15, 8% 3bet over decent sample, no history

am I FPSing?

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP1: $51.55
MP2: $96.30
CO: $81.15
Hero (BTN): $100.00
SB: $100.00
BB: $118.15
UTG: $100.00
UTG+1: $123.60

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN with A

A

1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1, 2 folds, CO calls $1, Hero raises to $6, SB raises to $18, 3 folds, Hero calls $12

Flop: ($39.00) 3

8

T

(2 players)
SB bets $20, Hero calls $20

Turn: ($79.00) 5

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $24

Looks ok. If you had history in LP 3betting/4betting wars then 4betting would be fine to balance obv. I like flatting because you'll be doing that with a wider range IP against an aggro blind 3bettor - espeically if stacks get deeper. Also, like you already noted, his range stays wide and we give him room to bluff since he's aggro.

Turn bet is fine. You give him room to shove over and you can still easily shove the river if he calls.

NH.

03-15-2010 , 12:20 PM

#4615

ready 2 win

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 4,061

So I guess you take this line simply because you are IP here and when you would be OOP you would 4bet?

To me your turn bet looks good since if he calls we can get the rest in pretty easy on the river (don`t rly know if there is a crad we are rly afraid of)...

03-15-2010 , 12:26 PM

#4616

brocksavage1

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ready 2 win

So I guess you take this line simply because you are IP here and when you would be OOP you would 4bet?

That's right. It's tougher to get stacks in OOP because you're not last to act.

However, HP is aggressive and if another aggro BTN 3bets his CO open there is definitely decent odds that the BTN will 5bet will ship a wider range than QQ+. Doesn't matter with AA, because we have ultimate equity preflop anyway.

03-15-2010 , 12:29 PM

#4617

KurtSF

Lucky Number Seven

Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 16,471

Quote:

Originally Posted by JL514

angela lansbury was the speaker at my graduation

I had Bill Nye The Science Guy.

03-15-2010 , 12:33 PM

#4618

JLBorloo

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 5,222

Quote:

Originally Posted by HappyPixel

quick line check, vs 23/15, 8% 3bet over decent sample, no history

am I FPSing?

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP1: $51.55
MP2: $96.30
CO: $81.15
Hero (BTN): $100.00
SB: $100.00
BB: $118.15
UTG: $100.00
UTG+1: $123.60

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN with A

A

1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1, 2 folds, CO calls $1, Hero raises to $6, SB raises to $18, 3 folds, Hero calls $12

Flop: ($39.00) 3

8

T

(2 players)
SB bets $20, Hero calls $20

Turn: ($79.00) 5

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $24

nh i like turn a lot
pre is ok but it does not do a lot of good to your 4bet range, but as long as you ship it sometime its fine.

03-15-2010 , 12:34 PM

#4619

SammyG-SD

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Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 12,600

Quote:

Originally Posted by brocksavage1

That's right. It's tougher to get stacks in OOP because you're not last to act.

However, HP is aggressive and if another aggro BTN 3bets his CO open there is definitely decent odds that the BTN will 5bet will ship a wider range than QQ+. Doesn't matter with AA, because we have ultimate equity preflop anyway.

also b/c unless we are deep, I don't advocating flatting any 3bet OOP. Since I wouldn't do it with the rest of my range, I wouldn't do it with AA.

03-15-2010 , 12:37 PM

#4620

brocksavage1

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SammyG-SD

also b/c unless we are deep, I don't advocating flatting any 3bet OOP. Since I wouldn't do it with the rest of my range, I wouldn't do it with AA.

I've been doing some deeper thinking about this and I'll PM you with my thoughts.

Totally agree that the majority of the time flatting 3bets OOP for 100bbs is a bad idea.

03-15-2010 , 12:39 PM

#4621

Equus asinus

veteran

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,842

Quote:

Originally Posted by KurtSF

I had Bill Nye The Science Guy.

Sick brag!!

Spoiler:

03-15-2010 , 12:43 PM

#4622

SammyG-SD

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brocksavage1

I've been doing some deeper thinking about this and I'll PM you with my thoughts.

Totally agree that the majority of the time flatting 3bets OOP for 100bbs is a bad idea.

yeah, generalities are not 100% applicable. it depends on how much we polarizing our ranges...and how aggressive villain is in 3bet pots....plus with the opening size and 3bet sizes becoming smaller at the higher limits flatting becomes a little more practical.

03-15-2010 , 12:46 PM

#4623

brocksavage1

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SammyG-SD

yeah, generalities are not 100% applicable. it depends on how much we polarizing our ranges...and how aggressive villain is in 3bet pots....plus with the opening size and 3bet sizes becoming smaller at the higher limits flatting becomes a little more practical.

I actually think it's a great rule at uNL with 100bbs and totally endorse (and follow) it.

Anyway, I'll PM you with what I'm thinking later today. Have to head to the gym.

03-15-2010 , 12:57 PM

#4624

zachvac

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Meh I actually like flatting 3-bets oop with AA just because there are a few hands I'd like to flat with there and plus regs cbet almost 100% of the time when you flat a 3-bet oop. AA is pretty much the nuts on most flops in a 3-bet pot so seems like the best value hand to balance with. If there's an aggro 3/4/5-bet dynamic I'm more likely to just 4-bet/call and idk exactly what frequency I actually do it with but I don't think it's a bad play at all it's always nice to be able to have the nuts in a 3-bet pot in a spot where you almost always otherwise have a marginal hand against a pretty polarized range.

03-15-2010 , 01:38 PM

#4625

toedder

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Quote:

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You are now a RakeBackPros player and you will receive 27% rakeback on
all your future play at Full Tilt Poker!

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