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Nut flush draw in multiway 3-bet pot Nut flush draw in multiway 3-bet pot

01-06-2014 , 02:35 PM
I'm not really sure how to play this one. Here CO is a 13/12 reg with 7.2% 3-bet and BTN is 23/18 with 19 % 3-bet and 63% postflop agg. but only 62 hands. With both villain being on the aggressive side and with me being almost 200bb deep with BTN I don't know how I should have played it.

    Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    BTN: $20.71 (207.1 bb)
    SB: $10.05 (100.5 bb)
    BB: $5 (50 bb)
    UTG+1: $5.20 (52 bb)
    UTG+2: $13.95 (139.5 bb)
    Hero (MP1): $18.46 (184.6 bb)
    MP2: $22.61 (226.1 bb)
    MP3: $14.20 (142 bb)
    CO: $5 (50 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K A
    2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, CO raises to $0.90, BTN calls $0.90, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.60

    Flop: ($2.85) J 8 6 (3 players)
    Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets $1.60, Hero calls $1.60, CO folds

    Turn: ($6.05) J (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $3, Hero calls $3

    River: ($12.05) 6 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $5, Hero folds

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    01-06-2014 , 02:58 PM
    Well I think you played it ok actually....no serious issues at all......
    If its me I do things a bit different.....im quite likely to 4bet pre, simply because I hate calling out of position.
    I would also raise this turn.....villan is unlikely to have a boat here....so he basically has to have a jack to call....and even if he does have a jack we have decent equity if villan calls.....i think this is a good spot for this because he bets really don't look very valuey so maybe he has qq/tt that will be tough to call our raise with.....
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    01-06-2014 , 04:06 PM
    I don't have an issue with the way it was played either really. In your spot, I'd probably check/raise the flop, as we have great fold equity against the CO (being that he 3bet pre and then checked OTF), and we're in decent shape against most of the button's value range (not to mention the fold equity there as well).
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    01-06-2014 , 04:51 PM
    CO is ss'ing reg, let's just 4bet/gii here. I'm not really worried about BTN, he's aggro enough to be 4betting the top of his range.

    AP, I'm usually folding turn, cause drawing on a paired board can end badly.
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    01-06-2014 , 04:53 PM
    I think coldcalling the 3bet oop against two is a mistake, especially when you are as passive as you appear to be
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    01-06-2014 , 06:23 PM
    doesnt seem terrible
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    01-06-2014 , 08:20 PM
    Depends how good the BTN is. Its a really sweet spot to flat AA as its hard to cold 4bet and get looked up unless someone has AA/KK.

    He 4bets a monster here and not only does he lose the hero who he is 200 deep with but he loses the shortie as well. Flatting gets hero to come along as well some of the time and obviously keeps the shorty in which he wants, the added bonus is that a semi competent hand reader will now say well he cant be that strong because he just flatted the 3bet so now might 4bet some hands that he might not normally.
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    01-07-2014 , 12:10 AM
    Good point Mart. With very limited reads, should we make the assumption he's good? How about a small 4bet to induce SS shove and see what BTN does?
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    01-07-2014 , 02:17 AM
    I agree that playing in 3-bet pot OOP definitely sucks. When I posted the hand I didn't notice CO was shortstacking. With that into account 4-betting pre seems good. We also get to know more info about BTN hand as dugthefish pointed out.

    As played I'd tend to agree that raising flop or turn is probably better if we take equity and FE into account even though I'm always a bit reluctant to get it in with draws as it seems I'm flipping or slightly behind most of the time and flipping 200bb stacks is never really fun.
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