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***November Beats, Brags, and Variance*** ***November Beats, Brags, and Variance***

11-18-2008 , 12:26 AM
I think this is the greatest discrepancy I have ever seen between the winning hand and the losing hand at showdown.

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG+1: $15.45
UTG+2: $13.75
MP1: $26.15
MP2: $33.15
CO: $5.00
BTN: $9.30
Hero (SB): $26.05
BB: $15.00
UTG: $25.15

CO posts a big blind ($0.25)

Pre Flop: ($0.60) Hero is SB with 3 3
2 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.25, 2 folds, CO checks, BTN calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.15, BB checks

Flop: ($1.25) 3 6 3 (5 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+2 checks, CO bets $1, BTN calls $1, Hero calls $1, BB folds, UTG+2 folds

Turn: ($4.25) Q (3 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $3.75 all in, BTN folds, Hero calls $3.75

River: ($11.75) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $11.75
CO mucks 9s 5s
Hero shows 3c 3s (four of a kind, Threes)
Hero wins $11.20
(Rake: $0.55)


11-18-2008 , 01:07 AM
ITS RAAAAAAING, ITS POOOOOOOOOURING!

[x] Villain soul-read me for a busted FD.
[x] Forgot that I might actually have an Ace or a King.

Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: $50.95
SB: $109.65
Hero (BB): $56.65
UTG: $115.70
UTG+1: $100.75
MP1: $50.00
MP2: $42.15
CO: $48.70

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with K A
UTG calls $0.50, UTG+1 raises to $1, 1 fold, MP2 calls $1, 3 folds, Hero raises to $5, UTG calls $4.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($12.25) K Q 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $8.50, UTG calls $8.50

Turn: ($29.25) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $18, UTG calls $18

River: ($65.25) A (2 players)
Hero bets $25.15 all in, UTG calls $25.15

Final Pot: $115.55
Hero shows K A (two pair, Aces and Kings)
UTG mucks 9 J
Hero wins $112.55
(Rake: $3.00)
11-18-2008 , 01:41 AM
GOD MODE GOGOGOGOGOGOGO!!!!

Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 7 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: $50.85
Hero (BTN): $60.35
SB: $59.45
BB: $42.05
UTG: $74.95
UTG+1: $15.00
MP: $69.90

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with A K
UTG calls $0.50, 3 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, 2 folds, UTG calls $2

Flop: ($5.75) 3 T 8 (2 players)
UTG bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

Turn: ($10.75) 5 (2 players)
UTG bets $5, Hero calls $5

River: ($20.75) J (2 players)
UTG bets $64.95 all in, Hero calls $50.35 all in

Final Pot: $121.45
Hero shows A K (a flush, Ace high)
UTG shows 9 8 (a pair of Eights)
Hero wins $118.45
(Rake: $3.00)
11-18-2008 , 11:32 AM
Worst session OF my life at 25NL. SSers are running in god mode. Donks are turning sick sick paired boards vs my overpairs and "floating" with pocket pairs that river me set<set. Sick sick sick - 4 buyins in 1k hands. I am running at 12 pukes/100.

Some hilarity from 80/60s:

Hand #1
Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
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MP2: $58.85
CO: $24.25
Hero (BTN): $37.50
SB: $25.30
BB: $22.15
UTG: $10.25
UTG+1: $6.05
MP1: $5.55

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with Q Q
5 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, SB calls $0.65, BB raises to $3.50, Hero raises to $6.25, 1 fold, BB calls $2.75

Flop: ($13.25) 9 8 7 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $15.50, BB raises to $15.90 all in, Hero calls $0.40

Turn: ($45.05) T (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($45.05) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $45.05
Hero mucks Q Q
BB shows T T (three of a kind, Tens)
BB wins $42.85
(Rake: $2.20)

Hand #2
Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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SB: $20.10
BB: $6.95
UTG: $35.15
MP: $26.55
Hero (CO): $27.45
BTN: $16.60

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with Q Q
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, 1 fold, SB calls $0.65, BB raises to $1.25, Hero raises to $4, SB calls $3.25, BB raises to $6.95 all in, Hero raises to $21, 1 fold

Flop: ($17.90) K 3 6 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: ($17.90) 6 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($17.90) 5 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $17.90
BB shows T J (a flush, King high)
Hero mucks Q Q
BB wins $17.05
(Rake: $0.85)

Hand #3
Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 7 players
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CO: $5.80
BTN: $3.25
Hero (SB): $25.00
BB: $24.15
UTG: $9.65
UTG+1: $12.05
MP: $7.25

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with A A
UTG calls $0.25, UTG+1 calls $0.25, MP raises to $1.25, 2 folds, Hero raises to $4, 3 folds, MP raises to $7.25 all in, Hero calls $3.25

Flop: ($15.25) 2 K 4 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: ($15.25) 8 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($15.25) 3 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $15.25
Hero shows A A (a pair of Aces)
MP shows K K (three of a kind, Kings)
MP wins $14.50
(Rake: $0.75)
11-18-2008 , 02:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by I vi ii V7
ITS RAAAAAAING, ITS POOOOOOOOOURING!

[x] Villain soul-read me for a busted FD.
[x] Forgot that I might actually have an Ace or a King.

Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: $50.95
SB: $109.65
Hero (BB): $56.65
UTG: $115.70
UTG+1: $100.75
MP1: $50.00
MP2: $42.15
CO: $48.70

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with K A
UTG calls $0.50, UTG+1 raises to $1, 1 fold, MP2 calls $1, 3 folds, Hero raises to $5, UTG calls $4.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($12.25) K Q 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $8.50, UTG calls $8.50

Turn: ($29.25) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $18, UTG calls $18

River: ($65.25) A (2 players)
Hero bets $25.15 all in, UTG calls $25.15

Final Pot: $115.55
Hero shows K A (two pair, Aces and Kings)
UTG mucks 9 J
Hero wins $112.55
(Rake: $3.00)
I love these guys that buy-in deep, but have no idea what the hell they're doing.
11-18-2008 , 02:23 PM
Someone ship me $0.15 to complete this swong...

25NL Swongaments
11-18-2008 , 06:14 PM
EL O EL WHAT?
this just feels so wrong but Im never good here, Villain is (40/12/1.2) but a winning player.
I had a read obv

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (UTG): $33.15
UTG+1: $16.75
MP1: $10.70
MP2: $30.10
CO: $50.15
BTN: $4.65
SB: $4.60
BB: $15.20

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with A A
Hero raises to $0.75, UTG+1 calls $0.75, MP1 calls $0.75, 5 folds

Flop: ($2.60) 4 5 7 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $2, MP1 folds, Hero folds

Last edited by IloveCars; 11-18-2008 at 06:16 PM. Reason: Please tell me this is wrong or right or hands that i beat
11-18-2008 , 08:03 PM
I think I might have dodged a bullet here:

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP2: $55.35
CO: $12.25
BTN: $25.00
SB: $13.90
Hero (BB): $20.60
UTG: $23.75
UTG+1: $16.90
MP1: $22.75

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with 3 3
2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.75, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.60) 3 A 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks

Turn: ($1.60) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $1, MP1 calls $1

River: ($3.60) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $3, MP1 calls $3

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $9.60
Hero shows 3h 3s (three of a kind, Threes)
MP1 shows As Ah (three of a kind, Aces)
MP1 wins $9.15
(Rake: $0.45)


I guess villian was planning on popping me on the ocean.
11-18-2008 , 08:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by IloveCars
EL O EL WHAT?
this just feels so wrong but Im never good here, Villain is (40/12/1.2) but a winning player.
I had a read obv

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (UTG): $33.15
UTG+1: $16.75
MP1: $10.70
MP2: $30.10
CO: $50.15
BTN: $4.65
SB: $4.60
BB: $15.20

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with A A
Hero raises to $0.75, UTG+1 calls $0.75, MP1 calls $0.75, 5 folds

Flop: ($2.60) 4 5 7 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $2, MP1 folds, Hero folds
I really really really hope this was a misclick
11-18-2008 , 11:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by IloveCars
EL O EL WHAT?
this just feels so wrong but Im never good here, Villain is (40/12/1.2) but a winning player.
I had a read obv

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (UTG): $33.15
UTG+1: $16.75
MP1: $10.70
MP2: $30.10
CO: $50.15
BTN: $4.65
SB: $4.60
BB: $15.20

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with A A
Hero raises to $0.75, UTG+1 calls $0.75, MP1 calls $0.75, 5 folds

Flop: ($2.60) 4 5 7 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $2, MP1 folds, Hero folds
Anything that's not 44, 55, or 77 lol, seriously what kind of flop were you hoping for? AAK? What was your read, that villain only flat calls 44 thru 77, concluded that it was more likely he had a set, and c/f? Also, "winning player" and "good player" are not the same, depending on your sample size.

edit: You even have two short stacks in the hand, wtf dude get the money in.

Last edited by I vi ii V7; 11-18-2008 at 11:29 PM.
11-18-2008 , 11:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by IloveCars
EL O EL WHAT?
this just feels so wrong but Im never good here, Villain is (40/12/1.2) but a winning player.
I had a read obv

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (UTG): $33.15
UTG+1: $16.75
MP1: $10.70
MP2: $30.10
CO: $50.15
BTN: $4.65
SB: $4.60
BB: $15.20

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with A A
Hero raises to $0.75, UTG+1 calls $0.75, MP1 calls $0.75, 5 folds

Flop: ($2.60) 4 5 7 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $2, MP1 folds, Hero folds
This is now in my Top 10 list for worst played hands I've ever seen.

Thanks OP.
11-19-2008 , 12:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by IloveCars
EL O EL WHAT?
this just feels so wrong but Im never good here, Villain is (40/12/1.2) but a winning player.
I had a read obv

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (UTG): $33.15
UTG+1: $16.75
MP1: $10.70
MP2: $30.10
CO: $50.15
BTN: $4.65
SB: $4.60
BB: $15.20

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with A A
Hero raises to $0.75, UTG+1 calls $0.75, MP1 calls $0.75, 5 folds

Flop: ($2.60) 4 5 7 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $2, MP1 folds, Hero folds
Level?

If not, Jesus...
11-19-2008 , 08:34 AM
I had a read, Villain shows 55. Betsizing and timing tell, was 2 tabling as an experiment.
It does look quite stupid if u read it I agree. If MP1 bets I ship it obv.
It felt great when he showed tbh.
11-19-2008 , 08:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by IloveCars
I had a read, Villain shows 55. Betsizing and timing tell, was 2 tabling as an experiment.
It does look quite stupid if u read it I agree. If MP1 bets I ship it obv.
It felt great when he showed tbh.
You had the read right after he cc you preflop? Or do you make a habit of chking AA in a multi-way OOP?

Seriously, this makes no sense. What do you mean 2 tabling as an experiment? Pretty much everyone on here plays at least 2 tables.
11-19-2008 , 11:12 AM
I was winding down from a session, just one table left open waiting for the blinds to come (I was break even after loosing 1/2 a stack with AA to JTs allin preflop earlier). I was surprised when my big blind got posted and I was dealt cards. Turns out I forgot to uncheck the "Auto Post Blinds":

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
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Hero (BB): $29.95
UTG: $28.15
UTG+1: $25.45
UTG+2: $20.85
MP1: $11.95
MP2: $30.95
CO: $27.20
BTN: $69.85
SB: $49.30

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with 7 7
5 folds, CO calls $0.25, BTN raises to $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.75, CO calls $0.75

Flop: ($3.10) K 7 9 (3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets $2, Hero raises to $8.50, CO requests TIME, CO calls $8.50, BTN calls $6.50

Turn: ($28.60) 8 (3 players)
Hero bets $20.45 all in, CO calls $17.70 all in, BTN folds

River: ($64.00) 5 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $64.00
Hero shows 7 7 (three of a kind, Sevens)
CO shows J K (a pair of Kings)
Hero wins $61.00
(Rake: $3.00)
11-19-2008 , 12:27 PM
^ vNH. LOL CO. This is the way to play a set perfectly.
11-19-2008 , 12:48 PM
So I'm playing a few sessions of NL50 to regain some confidence after having a terrible month so far at 100 and 200 and then this hand comes up and now I feel good again....gotta love overbetting like a mad man.

villain is a sick fish btw...

Party Poker $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
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MP2: $50.00
CO: $59.60
BTN: $19.25
Hero (SB): $140.05
BB: $53.35
UTG: $50.00
UTG+1: $107.35
MP1: $34.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with K K
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $1, 1 fold, MP2 calls $1, 2 folds, Hero raises to $8.50, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $7.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($18.50) J 8 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $13.00, UTG+1 calls $13

Turn: ($44.50) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $118.55, UTG+1 calls $85.85 all in

River: ($216.20) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)
11-19-2008 , 01:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JH1
^ vNH. LOL CO. This is the way to play a set perfectly.
LOL indeed. He took almost all of his time clock before he called and then called my turn shove so fast that I was really expecting to see a made gutshot.

Hey, if you liked that one, this happened in the next session:

When I got 4 callers, I told myself that I really need to hit this flop HARD to be able to do anything on the flop. When the flop came, i literally LOL'ed.

Then I figured, with 4 other players, someone must have hit something so I decided to keep betting. Couldn't have hoped for a better result. Poor BTN, I really feel for him... I hate when this happens to me.

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (UTG): $24.15
UTG+1: $8.65
UTG+2: $4.75
MP1: $10.90
MP2: $31.25
CO: $29.75
BTN: $24.40
SB: $24.75
BB: $22.65

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with A Q
Hero raises to $1, UTG+1 calls $1, 1 fold, MP1 calls $1, 2 folds, BTN calls $1, 1 fold, BB calls $0.75

Flop: ($5.10) J T K (5 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $4, BTN raises to $23.40 all in, BB folds, Hero calls $19.15 all in, MP1 folds

Turn: ($55.40) 4 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($55.40) 5 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $55.40
Hero shows A Q (a straight, Ace high)
BTN shows 9 Q (a straight, King high)
Hero wins $52.65
(Rake: $2.75)
11-19-2008 , 02:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by brocksavage1
You had the read right after he cc you preflop? Or do you make a habit of chking AA in a multi-way OOP?
Yes i did have that read. He was a passive station and never bet without the goods. I checked to raise MP1 bet, because he would bet anything in position.

Quote:
Originally Posted by brocksavage1
Seriously, this makes no sense. What do you mean 2 tabling as an experiment? Pretty much everyone on here plays at least 2 tables.
Sick Level lol, i 2 tabled to develop stronger reads instead of 8-Tabling.

457 is an awesome flop for setminers imo.

11-19-2008 , 02:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by IloveCars
Yes i did have that read. He was a passive station and never bet without the goods. I checked to raise MP1 bet, because he would bet anything in position.



Sick Level lol, i 2 tabled to develop stronger reads instead of 8-Tabling.

457 is an awesome flop for setminers imo.

I feel pretty confident in saying that nobody on this forum will think that you played this hand correctly. If you don't believe me make a thread for this hand and see what kind of feedback you get.

Raise MP1's bet??? He overcalled preflop --- you're the preflop aggressor.... why do you expect him to bet the flop?

Last edited by brocksavage1; 11-19-2008 at 02:18 PM.
11-19-2008 , 02:16 PM
Wow look at that Uber-checkbehind by myself, just amazing. This was not a misklick, i know this villain very well and AK was pretty much the only hand he would play this way.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($54.10)
SB ($64.95)
BB ($10)
UTG ($112.65)
UTG+1 ($65.20)
Hero (MP1) ($50.75)
MP2 ($50)
CO ($49.75)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 5, 5
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $2, Hero calls $2, 5 folds

Flop: ($4.75) 7, J, Q (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($4.75) 5 (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $3, UTG+1 calls $3

River: ($10.75) 10 (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks

Total pot: $10.75 | Rake: $0.50

Spoiler:

UTG+1 had A, K (straight, Ace high).
Hero had 5, 5 (three of a kind, fives).
Outcome: UTG+1 won $10.25
11-19-2008 , 03:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JH1
Someone ship me $0.15 to complete this swong...

25NL Swongaments
I have it the other way

11-19-2008 , 03:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Melchor
I have it the other way

lol that looks like we played HU and traded cash back. Looks like you ended up paying the rake though
11-19-2008 , 04:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JH1
lol that looks like we played HU and traded cash back. Looks like you ended up paying the rake though
lol. for real
11-19-2008 , 06:35 PM
OSSUM!

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 7 players
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UTG+1: $18.00
MP: $5.15
CO: $5.00
Hero (BTN): $25.00
SB: $20.60
BB: $19.55
UTG: $29.15

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with 4 4
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, 1 fold, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.60) 9 K A (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1, BB calls $1

Turn: ($3.60) K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks and thinks "the 4 of clubs would be awesome lolololol ldo ship it imo"

River: ($3.60) 4 (2 players)
BB bets $2, Hero raises to $6.50, BB raises to $17.80 all in, Hero calls $11.30

Final Pot: $39.20
Hero mucks 4 4
BB shows K A (a full house, Kings full of Aces)
BB wins $37.25
(Rake: $1.95)

also that

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
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CO: $25.00
BTN: $29.45
Hero (SB): $27.05
BB: $28.00
UTG: $27.75
UTG+1: $30.35
UTG+2: $25.00
MP1: $21.80
MP2: $24.95

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with 5 5
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, 2 folds, MP2 raises to $1, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.90, 2 folds

Flop: ($2.50) 4 9 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $1.50, Hero raises to $4.50, MP2 raises to $23.95 all in, Hero calls $19.45

Turn: ($50.40) K (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($50.40) 6 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $50.40
Hero shows 5 5 (three of a kind, Fives)
MP2 shows K K (three of a kind, Kings)
MP2 wins $47.90
(Rake: $2.50)

I dont like mobniez anyway

      
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