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05-05-2011 , 08:16 AM
how should i play this so confussed on this turn because both villians are 20/16 and 18/15 regs over 100 plus hands for both. i cant see the guy who double barrels ever doing this without a nuttish hand or huge draw. what should i do on the turn? is the flop a terrible call and not raise??

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

MP: $10.05
CO: $9.55
Hero (BTN): $11.89
SB: $10.00
BB: $10.00
UTG: $11.97

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has Q J

UTG calls $0.10, fold, CO raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, SB calls $0.25, BB calls $0.20, UTG calls $0.20

Flop: ($1.50, 5 players) Q T J
SB checks, BB bets $0.71, fold, CO calls $0.71, Hero calls $0.71, fold

Turn: ($3.63, 3 players) 5
BB bets $1.73, fold,

cheers
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05-05-2011 , 08:25 AM
don´t know if my thoughts are right but I would play it this way:
call these small bets, till the river and make a note how he played it. If he had AK,98, you´ve got still 6 outs and he can hold even Qx,Tx,Jx and you dominate them. if he holds QQ,TT,JJ you will see in the showdown what these small bet meant and you can have a read on him in other hands. he can also have 99- or he is just bluffing. He is giving you odds 3:1 on the turn and I think is good to call him with two pairs.
am I right? any other ideas?
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05-05-2011 , 08:28 AM
fold preflop
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05-05-2011 , 08:28 AM
dont call QJo vs a taggish(?) player when you dont feel confident with such a hand postflop.

As played: raise flop and see what happens. The BB didn't squeeze pre (I expect him to do this with AK, QQ, maybe JJ-TT) so you are likely to be ahead.
A flatcall and lead out looks strongly like TJ, 99, AQ, KQ (he dont want to give a freecard).
You'll also run in some dominated spots from time to time but your hand is way to strong to fold.
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05-05-2011 , 08:29 AM
i just think he shoves almost any river.. i dont think im getting to showdown without putting my whole stack in
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05-05-2011 , 08:30 AM
I fold PF.
Raise the flop for value. BB donks less than 1/2p otf 5 way + CO just flats, so I don't think they are both that strong. You don't want to just call this down or slowplay multiway as your hand is strong but quite vulnerable.
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05-05-2011 , 08:41 AM
why would i fold pre in posistion with QJ? i do feel confident generally just not on this board. if you make the T a 4 and make it a different suit im very happy playing this hand
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05-05-2011 , 08:48 AM
You'll find yourself in diffcult guessing spots too often. Think about the CO range. What would you do if a Q-high dry board comes?
You can't call 3 barrels with your hand unless you think your opponent is full of it.
Opening QJo is good in late pos. - calling down is pain in the ass.
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05-05-2011 , 08:50 AM
lol, give me top two on a non-drawy board and i'm pretty happy to. *eyeroll*
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05-05-2011 , 09:07 AM
lol thats my point though of all the different boards this is the one im most lost on lol because i just think its pretty close
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05-05-2011 , 09:32 AM
Fold PF, you are dominated way to often. Raise flop for value.
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05-05-2011 , 09:54 AM
Fold Pre.
Raise Flop.

As played its tough, but raise turn imo.
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