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NLz 10 Call, fold or raise? NLz 10 Call, fold or raise?

08-27-2017 , 06:48 AM
I already didn't know what I should do in this hand. I have a lot of Tens here. JT, T7 are my weakest T in my range. SB will have rarely a bluff in his hand. Mainly he has a straight, a full house or KT, AT. UG I have beat almost always.
The question is, can I fold out his AT and straights if I raise here? Or should I just fold? I think sb has not a lot of bluffs to call here, and no weaker Tx


[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37817656

BTN: $11.90 (119 bb)
SB: $12.94 (129.4 bb)
Hero (BB): $10 (100 bb)
UTG: $10.49 (104.9 bb)
MP: $6.24 (62.4 bb)
CO: $2.24 (22.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T J
UTG raises to $0.30, 3 folds, SB calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.90) 9 8 T (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets $0.52, SB calls $0.52, Hero calls $0.52

Turn: ($2.46) T (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks

River: ($2.46) 2 (3 players)
SB bets $1.41

Last edited by Rizzen; 08-27-2017 at 06:53 AM.
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08-27-2017 , 06:56 AM
We are not turning this into a bluff ever + our hand is an excellent bluff catcher = click dat call button and count your winnings afterwards.
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08-27-2017 , 07:00 AM
I like an exploitative fold here. Villain has few bluffs that bluff into 3 people (given that you've still got lots of Tx in your range and UTG has all overpairs too) and they're never value betting worse here.

Don't feel great about raising here, our line only makes sense with a couple combos T9/T8, think the rest of our FHs/Straights raise flop and it would be better with info on villain that they are able to fold Tx here. Also blocking their hands we want to fold isn't ideal, I think 98 is a better hand to bluff here with.
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08-27-2017 , 10:18 AM
I would click that call button like there is no tomorrow xd you are blocking a J witch makes the straight less likely but still possible. I don't have stats on the players but UTG rase normally we are looking to AK/AQ/AJ/Pocket pairs. And if the player is more loose maybe a A10s.
The SB is harder to guess the range but could have picked up on a straight draw on the flop, or a straight draw with middle pair.
The turn checking doesn't show a lot of strength and i think you should had made a bet there, like is played i would't re raise the SB but for sure a call.
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08-27-2017 , 10:51 AM
I am never folding this river here based on how this hand played out. When villain doesn't continue his cbetting on the turn, I see that removing, boats, and trips from his range and possibly even straights. I see villain checking the turn usually with air, draws, and overpairs. I would expect us to be pretty far ahead of villain's range most of the time on this river, and I would call. I don't think raising would be an option here because I can't see us getting called by worse.
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08-27-2017 , 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ALongmuir
I like an exploitative fold here. Villain has few bluffs that bluff into 3 people (given that you've still got lots of Tx in your range and UTG has all overpairs too) and they're never value betting worse here.

Don't feel great about raising here, our line only makes sense with a couple combos T9/T8, think the rest of our FHs/Straights raise flop and it would be better with info on villain that they are able to fold Tx here. Also blocking their hands we want to fold isn't ideal, I think 98 is a better hand to bluff here with.
im all for explo folds at micro but this seems wrong.
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08-27-2017 , 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ChipsNcrisps
im all for explo folds at micro but this seems wrong.
Yeah I agree it's pretty close imo, idm either way. I can't come up with enough bluffs here (need to make up like 1/3 of their range) KJ/KQ maybe but these may fold flop or x/r flop at some % and are all of these bluffing OTR into two ranges which can have some trips/OP/FHs/maybe straights here? It's a pretty naughty fold but I like it.

Rick, I think you've got confused between UTG/SB here.
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08-27-2017 , 06:42 PM
folding seems good.
His value range is huge
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08-27-2017 , 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ALongmuir

Rick, I think you've got confused between UTG/SB here.
Oh yeah. I sure did. Oops. Lol
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08-28-2017 , 04:16 AM
Thanks to all the useful answers.

I ended up calling, it's just one of those spots, where I think I have to call, but I don't really know what i beat... I may lead turn next time, I just hate to donk myself.
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08-28-2017 , 04:29 AM
Easy call imo. He has tons of bluffs in this spot. His range is super wide. He might have a straightdraw. Maybe he picked up a flushdraw on the turn.

Never raise.
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