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03-26-2010 , 10:03 PM

proudlikeagod

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OPP: profitable regular 28/24/3.3
3bet 12 squize 10
c/r river 6.
wtsd 30/ watsd 46 have a note @bluff busted riveer scary card@

probably tricky

button -fish 31/7

tried to mix it up lil bit and check this flop.
good fold or not?

$3/$6 No Limit Holdem
5 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ForNem ($586.45)
CO Hero ($911.45)
BTN ($261.75)
SB ($579)
BB ($607)

Pre-Flop: ($9, 5 players) Hero is CO Q

1 fold, Hero raises to $18, maverikk21 calls $18, SB calls $15, 1 fold

Flop: 5

($60, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, maverikk21 checks

Turn: 3

($60, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $38, maverikk21 folds, SB calls $38

River: 9

($136, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $100, SB goes all-in $523, Hero folds

Last edited by proudlikeagod; 03-26-2010 at 10:23 PM.

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03-27-2010 , 12:57 AM

Louis Cyphre

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What's the point of the flop check?

I don't like your river fold. Villain could be bluffing or value-raising worse.

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03-27-2010 , 02:46 AM

VeryImportant

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Originally Posted by LouisCyphre

What's the point of the flop check?

I don't like your river fold. Villain could be bluffing or value-raising worse.

what worse does he have here for value on river? and i think it's too expensive call for bluffcatching

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03-27-2010 , 02:49 AM

banalanal

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Hate the flop check. Bet more on turn. As played, river is villain dependent but probably a call against a good regular as he knows you always bet AQ/AK on the flop and that maybe you are pot controlling a weak ace or KK and he can valueshove his AJ.. Sigh and call I guess but I fold some too.

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03-27-2010 , 02:52 AM

Louis Cyphre

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Originally Posted by VeryImportant

what worse does he have here for value on river?

AJ/AT. Maybe any Ax.

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Originally Posted by VeryImportant

and i think it's too expensive call for bluffcatching

So you only call with a fullhouse after you tricked your opponent by slowplaying trips?

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03-27-2010 , 03:56 AM

VeryImportant

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Originally Posted by LouisCyphre

AJ/AT. Maybe any Ax.

So you only call with a fullhouse after you tricked your opponent by slowplaying trips?

no i like to call

but any time i call such shove i see FH only, plus it's so stupid board to bluff with

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03-27-2010 , 08:29 AM

ddubois

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You did a very good job of repping QQ. Given that, good, aggressive regs will turn 88 or 54s or whatever into a bluff here sometimes.

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03-27-2010 , 09:02 AM

babaar

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i dont think many bluff often enough here to call

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03-27-2010 , 11:36 AM

JFsports

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I think a fold here is ok, but you should just bet the flop anyway

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03-27-2010 , 01:37 PM

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Irish Mafia

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Originally Posted by LouisCyphre

AJ/AT. Maybe any Ax.

So you only call with a fullhouse after you tricked your opponent by slowplaying trips?

So AJ also played the hand as poorly as us, and actually "tricked" us by flatting the turn. now they CRAI, on a checked flop that completes the flush on the river? Hmmmm.

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03-27-2010 , 01:48 PM

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Louis Cyphre

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Originally Posted by Irish Mafia

on a checked flop that completes the flush on the river? Hmmmm.

There is no flush.

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03-27-2010 , 01:56 PM

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Irish Mafia

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My bad. Still think it's highly unlikely that AJ isn't trying to get more cake into the pot before the river. I'd expect a pure bluff before some butchered AJ here.

Given no flush, its a lot closer. I think a fold is prob. still correct w/o a read.

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03-27-2010 , 01:59 PM

#13

Fissshhhhh

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Might be missing something, but this looks like quite an easy fold.

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03-27-2010 , 03:07 PM

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lnternet

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fold is standard but nothing wrong with calling to see if he's capable of c/c turn check here with the nuts or c/shove a made hand into a bluff

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03-27-2010 , 05:27 PM

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ArtPlay

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Yep you can call to be totally sure he's got nines.

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03-27-2010 , 05:56 PM

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Minsk

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bet flop

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04-01-2010 , 01:01 PM

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Refrain

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your hand looks like 88+, and he can't have that strong of a hand to check flop and turn with the fish in the hand... or can he?

I guess villain plays all his boats this way, and he's playing so passively because of card removal reasons? if so then i can see why it's a fold for sure

Last edited by Refrain; 04-01-2010 at 01:08 PM.

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04-01-2010 , 06:50 PM

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darkconcept

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lol im a nit when it comes to calling and even im snapping this against any reg worth is weight in salt.

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