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nl6 Trips middle kicker against fish nl6 Trips middle kicker against fish

09-08-2015 , 07:04 AM
I open with ATo and 2 players call.
Flop is AAJ, i think checking here is fine, becuse people can valuebet J or bluff or they can improve on Turn like T with KQ.
So one player bets and blind minraised.
At this moment i give him an Ace but because he is bad, he can have bader kicker here.
So i just call.
Tur he bets i call and River he bets very small and i call.
If this bet on River is like not the best hand but at least trips, i could raise, but im not sure, he can also bet little with FH.
So i didnt want to raise.
So question is about flop, should you bet against two people on AA Flop with A or check if your oop ?

888 Poker - $0.06 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (CO): 148.17 BB
BTN: 114.5 BB (VPIP: 43.48, PFR: 28.26, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 46)
SB: 88.5 BB (VPIP: 35.71, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 44)
BB: 51.67 BB (VPIP: 29.46, PFR: 17.86, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 113)
UTG: 127.33 BB (VPIP: 29.69, PFR: 20.31, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 66)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A T

fold, Hero raises to 2.17 BB, BTN calls 2.17 BB, SB calls 1.67 BB, BB calls 1.17 BB

Flop: (8.67 BB, 4 players) A J A
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets 4.33 BB, SB raises to 8.67 BB, fold, Hero calls 8.67 BB, fold

Turn: (30.33 BB, 2 players) 4
SB bets 19 BB, Hero calls 19 BB

River: (68.33 BB, 2 players) 2
SB bets 17 BB, Hero calls 17 BB
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09-08-2015 , 08:18 AM
When he bets 17 bb otr he has at most trips. With AQ it's definitely a raise, AT is too thin I think. Well played.
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09-08-2015 , 08:32 AM
You're actually against 3 people on the flop, I'd definitely bet. Any jack is calling probably, any ace is calling/raising and if they're fishy enough you can stack them. If they don't have neither an ace or a jack they'll have pocket pairs and them catching a set would be horrible for you. So I'd go with betting on the flop and probably reshoving against the 35/0 guy who's likely to overestimate his weak ace here.
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09-08-2015 , 08:34 AM
If i know his range, i could go over the top, but he minraised and i dont know if he plays every A or not.
I think betting flop is o.k.
To the flopraise i just want to let the bluffs in, he can also have KQ (sometimes with FD) with a T to the Str8 and to the nuts to me.
If i know he dont bet that small with FH i can raise if he plays more Aces like A9o+, if he plays all aces ii couldraise.
But of course against this bad player who cant fold Trips, i could also raise river.
My idea was to let him bet, but the riverbet was to small, so i lost value.
Against player who minraises here alll trips and all FH i just have 52% Equity, but its because of some split pots that often happens.
I have the best hand 2/3 of the time, but i dont know if he plays A2-A6.
Second if he plays also FD like this my Equity isnt that great too with 57%.
I think with reraising i would make more money, but i shoud know if he plays every A, if yes this is a good spot to broke.

Flop i thought we are 3 players, with 4 i prefer a bet little, because of FD and stuff like this.
The minraise 4-way is another thing then a minraise hu, hu i think i should just call, but 4-way it could be a good shove against his range.
But think checking flop is o.k. too, just because i can get much value from hands that either bluff bluff or improve on turn.
I dont fear pp that much, because there are several ways i can make FH here on turn and river.
I just wanted to look weak and wanted that people bet with J, chances someone has an A too are there but not all players play weak Aces, so with checking, also things like a T on turn and somebody has TT or a 3. Ace and people broke with J or a J and people broke with J.
Board is quite wet, there are several 12 outers, who could hit.
Also if i check, there could be things like bet, call, call and then i could raise but if i bet and they call, call, call and a Flush is possible or str8 i hate life too.
Other opinions, not sure, but like bet flop too, only some thouthts.

Also SB and esp BB have not full stacks, also an argument to not fear like turned FH so much.
BB seems to play tighter.

But think river is a small shove here.

And a J is perhaps calling one bet, but not two, but if i check and he bets and i call, he could bet again, so i could just c/call, c/call,c/raise.
But with the possible Gutshots and Flushes i think i should play more aggresive, would be another story on AA2 rainbow.

Last edited by philkill; 09-08-2015 at 09:04 AM.
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